The humble cupola and massive gun breach
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u forgot that u need an ace crew to get that reloads, which are rare to see in a tank since u’re not leveling up the crew of a single tank :D
oooohhh, u meant the british Striker!
well it’s a very nimble ATGM launcher with Gen 1 thermals and goofy maneuverable missiles that follow ur sight very accurately.
i know, but it’s a measure that must be kept in mind.
when u’re playing a subsonic attacker u don’t want to get missile’d, right? and tho they’re as easy to dodge as just barrel rolling them, some planes don’t have the thrust or the maneuverability to dodge it in time, and paired with it’s smokeless missiles, noticing their approach is even harder.
No, it doesn’t funny enough. It has high flat pen on paper, however APDS has a strong tendency to shatter instantly upon contact with enemy armor and this combined with the super long reload and abysmal damage of the APDS shell means the Conqueror actually has a WEAKER gun than other 7.7 heavies like the Somua or M103 or anything else you can think of.
no lol its APDS
It has obvious large weakspots, such as the LFP you mention, but also the fact the side armor is absymal as well. You can also cupola this with aphe or breach it frontally
14.9 seconds ACED is a terrible reload speed
The tank doesn’t do damage when it shoots people, the APDS pen is a lie due to round shattering, the reload is way too long for the tank to be super competitive especially when combined with the poor damage from APDS, and the tank’s armor isn’t going to work against darts at all, which is what you’re primarily going to face at 8.0, more than what you already do at 7.7.
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Another one, why should this be 7.0? It’s GOOD at its current BR but not overpowered, which is something I can say for the majority of vehicles you suggest to be uptiered. You are asking for the bog standard “good” vehicles to go up sometimes even by multiple jumps/brackets when they aren’t even overpowered for their current BR.
More examples of this below
If it loses DM23 why would it be 8.0 and not 7.7 with the other M48s?
Everything I listed here is not that good to be called overpowered but you want them uptiered
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Skill issue, Crew leveling isn;t a hard thing to grind and spec into specific things like reload
The missiles are amongst the slowest in game and ammo racking the launcher is an instant kill
That’s not getting into how gen 1 thermals are A) Not impressive, and B) Other vehicles have better thermals at the same or lower BRs
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Conq’s cuppola is not that big (Tiger H1 has a bigger one) and u must have an APHE round to damage the crew properly, if not u’re just hitting the commander.
the breach is also quite hard to hit, even with M48A2 C’s HEAT-FS it’s still hard to damage it properly.
huh, i have found the Conqueror’s L1G quite strong for it’s BR, front-penning things like the IS-4M through the hull easily, but maybe it’s because british mains are too good aiming, since they came from using solid shells since reserve tanks XD
fair enough, i can’t deny APDS is certainly unconsistent 86% of the time.
true true.
well it’s paired with M103’s reload speed at least, and u don’t have that ugly 20.8secs reload from the IS series :D
no reload is a bad reload if u know how and when to use it.
ty for the opinion and advice! i’m truly gonna keep this in mind for the future of this topic.
yes but m103 does not rely on apds, it has HEAT and AP to use instead
because it would have DM13, just like the Leopard I from 8.0.
the other M48s from 7.7 only have HEAT-FS (which are worse than the M48A2 G A2’s HEAT-FS btw).
it always depends on the player. i know they aren’t as good as other vehicles, but they certainly have advantages that no other vehicle has, such as:
- autoloaders
- really high mobility
- armor
- good gun
- modern technology (LWS/LR/TVD)
- stabilizer
as i said, this is not a permanent change, and everything will be edited while we chat to perfectionate the topic till it’s finally finished and has changes everybody can agree with. i’m sorry if my opinion doesn’t match urs and i hope we can somehow reach an agreement about the strengths and weaknesses of those vehicles and their BR.
but they aren’t overpowered relative to other vehicles at their same BR. Most of these vehicles would be considered bad at their new BRs you suggest
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It doesn’t get any better with Heat-FS…
No lol
Tiger H1 too while you’re at it, along with Panther D
It is not really a good vehicle, 6.7 is a crazy br for it
As much as I hate being killed by it, I do not think it is 7.0 materiel like the Nashorn exists and it’s 5.3
What?
No, it has a 16/15 sec reload with expert and it would be terrible against T-64A/T-72A, Merkava, XM-1 Creysler
What?🤣🤣🤣
Lmao
No
hmmm
No, it is just terrible
😂
Sure if it gets L52 like the Mk 3, otherwise no
It isn’t even that good
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Sure
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hmm
No
It was 9.0 then it got dropped because it wasn’t good
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Sure
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Nope, it has no armor, a 76 Sherman would wipe this thing clean cause of the weak armor and not so good mobility.
No IRCCM, even stingers have this capability and most of them are at this BR
It is not even stealthy like ASU-57, you can kill it even easier with 7.62 machine guns its embarassing
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Pointless uptiers that invalidate vehicles
Are you sure?
At least be willing to put your name on this rather than making a throwaway account.
It has not had smokeless motor missiles for over a year. Its removal was the whole reason it dropped in br.
Dont forget is has no search functions so you are stuck with just your eyes. Plus the seeker is caged which limits the angles of attack it can engage.
Why do you think they have to go up
Already have the T-92 with Heat at 6.7
No need to change M41 and you ruin the 6.3 lineup by moving it.
No changes but move it up 2 steps or even a full BR? Makes no sense.
It’s less efficient than the M53/59 (BR 6.3) and about the same as R3 (BR 6.0).
No need to move it.
Has similar efficiency to the Skink. THE SKINK!!!
And you want to move it up higher???
Bait, definitely bait.
Why?
Statshark shows it to be mediocre.
It’s only ammo is heatfs - making it struggle on many maps, just like the M51 does.
People can spend entire topics debating singular vehicles, and here you post “suggestion” containing several without as much as giving your justification for each individual change.
bro, did you make a new account just to make this thread?
also i feel like you just dont like being killed when playing heavy tanks