the driver cannot operate the gun; they can likely see the gunners view but they cannot operate the gun, however true information is likely classified since the army still has the HSTVL in “storage” but its in bad shape
Yes the driver, commander and gunner can shoot. They did testing with a Commander/gunner and a Commander/driver setup.
“being developed”, it’s not relevant to the final iteration of the HSTVL, if you can provide an updated source that was created after its completion, that would be a different story
Brake pedal has a bar extending across to both the driver and gunner
Gunner’s joystick
Both driver and gunner get the same video sources
Driver’s tv screen removed but goes in that box
Driver’s side
Gunner’s controls
Commanders controls
Full video is here, guy did a nice job looking inside the HSTVL. Wish he did more around the driver’s area
Current photo of the RDFLT with smoke launchers
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I also noticed this, about 25.4mm of homogeneous armor and 25.4mm of aluminum. Notice the difference of coloration, the homogeneous armor is a bit rusty and the aluminum has pitting. Gaijin got that down pretty darn well!
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Hey all, I found that there is a AAI penetrator from ADA058596. If we look at older documentation, it is mentioned that the AAI penetrator was named directly in the Darpa to Stoner document. I did some calculations. The muzzle penetration should be correct but I used AI to scale the original table to get the new numbers.
Penetrator weight = 1.36KG
Projectile weight = 2.39KG
15.38 - .62 = 14.76"
379/2 at 60 Degrees at 10m = 190mm
379/1.15 at 30 Degrees at 10m = 330mm
379/1 at 0 Degrees at 10m = 379mm
Original
Dev server
XM885 should be renamed AAI Penetrator
Let me know if I missed anything. Thanks
Seems like this post is getting ignored too
Yup, silence
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Lovely
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Good old Gaijin shenanigans.
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Hopefully the more that people are aware of the said problem, the more it gains importance in the dev teams
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That’d be ideal, but Gaijin is notorious for not caring about it or taking a very long time to address it.
That is cool source you found, unfortunately you missread the penetrator diagram. The dimensions are not in inches but in calibers and here a caliber is 20.6mm.
So total length is only 316.8mm not 375.
Also the total weight is given as 1.38kg not 2.39kg.
I believe a caliber is 1 to 1 to inches here in the US
The 1.38kg is just the penetrator weight, not the projectile weight unless I’m missing something.
Here’s a picture of the supposed ammo measured in inches, the penetrator is there but the fins are sheared off
All the penetrator diagrams are normalized to the diameter of the individual projectile, unfortunately. And the weight is total, the paper this is from is concerned with flight dispersion of the projectile.
We can confirm this by looking at the XM579
The fin is given as 4.31 calibers, and a caliber is normalized to 1.39" for a total of 152mm which is the diameter of the XM150 gun launcher mounted in the MBT70 because the tail fin on the XM579 series acts as skids stabilizing the projectile in the barrel, so they are full bore:
Thanks, that makes sense, strange way they’ve done it. Any idea what the 14.34 measures? I’m redoing the calculations, appreciate it!
2 at 60 Degrees at 10m = 164mm
1.15 at 30 Degrees at 10m = 285mm
1 at 0 Degrees at 10m = 328mm
If we’re converting the specified to normalized, what does the 1.38kg to 157.86 cal equate to?
I feel like I’m missing something else. The 1.94 projectile mass seems off unless the tail fins take up the extra weight
The 14.34 number is the “Transverse mass moment of inertia” divided by the mass times the diameter squared. This is a way of describing “Aerodynamic jump” which is used to describe how a projectile changes trajectory after launch. So basically, it describes how stable the projectile is in flight.
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Latest series of bug reports. I was going to make one on the smoke grenades for the RDFLT but there are already bug reports about it
HSTVL/RDFLT can be operated with one crew member
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/23I7757qOUrZ
RDFLT missing Hunter Killer/Commander view
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/8sOxNv7JJvXq
HSTVL/RDFLT ammo name change
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ebSG9ayXfx1S
HSTVL/RDFLT can use Commander vision without CMDR
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/42jstoiXLA1O
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I will note that the gun was changed from ADMAG to XM274 due to a bug report
ive not gone over all of the sources for it and I remember it being pretty shaky with plenty of sources stating that it used ADMAG but gaijin will likely deny changing it back without really good and clear sources
wait, im stupid it was the other way around
Got that backwards, the HSTVL/RDF went from the XM274 to the ADMAG gun :)
that other ammo could be huge because of how bad the current one is
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It would certainly help!
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