Unless you’re in spesific conditions you cant see the low smoke or launch.
it should be smokeless only in specific conditions the smoke should be visible at most of the times
Give SPAA with capability like that to other nations than just one…
Quite the opposite.
İt should have visible smoke under certain conditions, not the other way around.
Provide footage
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İ’ll do better.
Let me know when you’re free so we can test it and you can see with your own eyes.
I’m not going to participate, i want footage of your testing. If you don’t have footage of your testing then feel free to say that.
Test will only take 10 mins maximum, shouldnt be hard to participate.
Unless you’re afraid that people will realize you were lying during the whole time :)
Here, @DiamondLag and i tested Pantsir against multiple planes and he shared the results.
İm always okay for more tests if you think these claims are false.
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If you want to prove me wrong just submit a video. I don’t exist to help you argue. I want to see a video, not just talk.
Always excuses…
I even offered a test and showed test results with other person yet you keep refusing to believe or do a test.
Whats funny is that you’re talking about Pantsir’s abilities with high confidence yet you dont even own Pantsir in the first place.
You can either participate in test or you can stop spreading misinformations about Pantsir’s abilities.
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I don’t need to own it to know the capabilities. The capabilities are public information. Again, you proving something does not require my involvement. Provide footage of your testing, nothing is preventing that.
Quite opposite, you have no idea about Pantsir’s capabilities thats why you throwing empty claims.
Again excuses and more excuses, either take participate or stop talking about something you dont even have in the first place.
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War thunder wiki, numerous videos, stat cards must be full on lies then.
If you can’t prove something without having me participate in that something then your argument lies in bad faith. You should be able to prove in your claim without the other person having to do anything about it. Bring on the footage, i asked for it and you did not provide a reason as to why you could not send it.
İ love when people claims: hurr durr i dont have the vehicle but i know how it performs better then you.
Also according to Statcards Pantsir can effectively engage any air unit up to 18Km, which proves my point as well.
Thats rich considering you dont have the vehicle yet you’re claiming you know how it performs better then a person who owns it.
You already lied enough, from this point im not gonna take your words seriously.
Either purchase and use Pantsir before making any claims or stop feeding more lies.
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Stat card doesn’t define wether it is effective for hitting maneuvering targets at 18km or non maneuvering, simple as that.
Average ad hominem attacks. Regardless of wether you own the vehicle or not, provide proof. I have had people with pantsirs say the opposite despite them owning the vehicle, and that is where your argument falls off.
All you need to do is provide footage of your testing. Why is it hard?
Yet you claimed stat cards and information on Wiki is more then enough to know how Pantsir performs.
You contradict yourself quite well.
Average excuses.
Sure then stop bein drama queen and take a participate with me you will probably refuse again since you know your lies will come out.
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All information combined, the stat card adds to it and lets you understand some of the capabilities like max engagement range. Obviously you purposefully misinterpreted it as part of your strawman fallacy.
I simply won’t bother to come in a custom match with you. I expect you to provide the required footage because nothing is preventing you from doing that. Why should i bother when its on you?
Just admit that you don’t actually have any proof of the testing results other than random talk.
Stat cards doesnt tell effective range,how many G’s it can pull during entire flight time or how much does booster sustains.
It obviously doesnt tell how radar is good, what are the angles and how effective it can track and search.
More excuses, again.
Cause you know your lies will come put and you’re too scared to admit that you’re wrong.
İ already posted screenshots about testing, @DiamondLag will confirm that, if you have enough courage you can ask him in DM’s.
As i said if you dont have the vehicle then stop acting like you know better then who owns it in the first place cause unlike you i know how it performs from first hand.
Cheers Liar.
And again you ignored the fact that this information is just supplemential to the overall image but ofcourse in your argument despite me saying the contrary you still believe that stat card would be my only source of information. Ofcourse that is your strawman arugment.
All talk no footage. You still haven’t answered my question, why are you refusing to post footage?
You’re the one who brought stat cards information as an excuse for not having the vehicle in the first place.
Not a smart move İ’ll tell you that.
Considering you provide zero evidence and only threw empty claims and not having Pantsir in the first place while i own the Pantsir and showed screenshots that confirms my claims i think situation is quite clear.
Not to mention i offered to do test dozens time yet you refused again and again.
You’re just liar who cant accept his mistake, nothing more nothing less.