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@Leinadmix9_ツ
You know, there’s this thing called precise mouse movements that prevents me from pulling max Gs in turns.
I can pull as little Gs as an F-104’s peak Gs in the R2Y2 with precise mouse movement.
If a plane is easy to get a high KDR then it’s good or OP.
If a plane is among the worst for its BR, the KDR will be lower among a consistent player’s record.
Your KDR exceeds that of J29A, Kikka, F-86, and so on. The only plane where R2Y2 is closest to, especially in KMR, is La-200 which itself is arguably under-BR’d.
Of course I think R2Y2 and MD452 are perfect examples of what 8.0 jets should be, and they’ve been invaded by Mig-15 and Sabre.
As I said previously many times, it’s better to decompress the 9.3 area than it is to ruin 6.7 and below.
I have a hard time enough trying to convince Gaijin to move P51H5NA up, I don’t need that to be impossible.
it used to have 7.0 BR and airspawn but gaijin says japan cant have nice things
And I got a 1.7:1 KDR with them when my average KDR was 0.8 at best in fighters.
They were blatantly OP that someone knowing nothing on fighters could perform really good in them.
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You know, there is this thing called answering to my comment instead of just yapping.
Still waiting for your answer on this, i spect you will just not answer as you always do.
On things like the Yak-3U yes, you can see it is OP since the plane is good.
On things like the R2Y2, as i already said and you just didnt read, is the enemy team that does worse
This is just beyond ignorance from you, La-200 can be a 8.7 plane if it werent for the cannons and would turn circles around the R2Y2.
Unrelated, stop derailing the post
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minor nation gets something good = nerf it into abysmal dog crap
major nation gets a 0.0001% WR decrease = lets just spoonfeed them
Watch this.
Me telling you your feelings matter, me acknowledging your opinions and perspectives with equality, me taking responsibility for my thousands of typing mistakes every month, and me treating you as an equal is NOT gaslighting.
I don’t address false accusations against me anymore, if you want me to address points your posts will have the same level of civility everyone elses’ posts do.
I will not treat you differently than I treat myself and others just because you want my attention; getting my attention is simple: Be kind, and I’ll do my best to be kind.
Part of this is conditioning myself to not absorb the behavior of others.
The enemy teams did worse when you were in every other 7.7 and 8.0, and all other BRs as well.
@かがり Any tech tree gets something OP = correct its BR. Gripen, R2Y2, F-14A IRIAF, etc.
BRs aren’t dictated by win rate.
This may be unrelated, but I was laughing too hard when I tried to play Vampire.
- How bad it is compared to US counterpart F-86s
- How bad US main which trying to A6M style turnfight with me in their F-86F-2 is.
The nation which gets the US as an enemy constantly = guaranteed nerf ticket.
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Yeah and Nah.
BR itself may not be dictated by win rate itself.
but the win rate can be a good indicator to look at other values which impact real BR changes.
With some exaggerations, the win rate can be indicator of both ‘average skill level of players’ and ‘average deck power’.
For example, if bad US players with low skill levels constantly feed enemies
then enemies WR, KD, average reward netting goes higher.
And enemies will get nerfed because average reward netting hits way higher than their counterparts.
‘Because they overperformed’
While US gets spoonfed buff ‘because they underperformed’
:/
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the R2Y2’s should go to like 7.7 tops + airspawn or 7.3 with no airspawn given its being removed. and is kinda like a legacy to the R2Y2, of where it started and where it’ll finally rest at
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And if I was to assess the performance of Vampire, I’d compare it to other jets you play.
After all, you’ll be facing American players for almost all other jets.
And the ultimate comparison will be my ability to do cross analysis.
If people keep calling those of us that want Mig-15 and Sabre moved up names because they’re upset that 7.0 - 8.0 is more balanced than 8.0 - 10.0… I don’t know.
My first ever post in this topic was about wanting the compression fixed at 9.3 which removes the OP 8.0s from 8.0.
And instead of people remembering that or being honest about my positions, there are posts actively lying about my positions and at this stage I am done addressing points that aren’t perfectly PG.
No accusations, no vulgarity, no raging at others.
I’m done. After 2 years of dealing with it constantly, I’m just done.
I’ll be kind, and I’ll expect that same behavior back at me.
My typing may slip and I’ll edit those mistakes out when I catch them or they’re pointed out; and I’ll do my best to remember to tell people I’ve corrected the post.
It’s okay to seemingly disagree with me about Sabres and Mig-15s, it’s not okay to insult me and rage at me because I don’t want the Griffon Spitfires to suffer from under-BR’d jets.
@かがり
The 7.7s of the game climb slower, rate slower, and/or go slower with worse guns than MD452 and R2Y2.
As I said previously, moving up the OP 8.0s - 10.3s fixes the 7.0 - 8.0 range of aircraft most.
what we need is a decompression of mid tier, instead of gaijin caring solely on top tier, they should decompress mid tier as well
Anything but admit that you are wrong uh?
America teams on air are the german teams on ground, it is amazing seeing +8 team mates going after the first grass eater
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@Leinadmix9_ツ
I gave you the parameters, and you refused. You want to edit the parameters to give the F-80C as much advantage as possible because you know WTRTI and Statshark are correct.
Me saying that Statshark and WTRTI are wrong would itself be wrong, so I cannot and will not say what you demand of me.
Here’s all the evidence I’ve supplied previously BTW:
As WTRTI and Statshark prove, the airframe performance when given equal fuel shows a slight bias toward R2Y2.
90 seconds of water injection is not enough to out-rate an R2Y2 if you get into a rate fight.
You have to intentionally bring less fuel, you have to intentionally make the F-80C have advantage.
Which has been my statement this entire time.
Oh, and if you don’t use water injection for your takeoff and initial climb, the R2Y2 out-climbs you, and climbs as well as the F-80C when the F-80C has minimum fuel.
So yeah, while Lein’s posts claim WTRTI and Statshark are wrong, and demands me I “admit” they’re wrong; I’ll stick to the evidence provided for the claim I made from the start; I’m not going to change goalposts just because someone demands me to.
I refuse to do comparisons of aircraft where one aircraft has fuel advantage, cause I want to know what the performance is like when the fuel time is equal.
This is how DCS 1v1s are done, which is where I started for 1v1s; and it’s the standard I supplied for War Thunder 1v1s with the slider.
With the R2Y2’s superior guns, as well as the slightly superior airframe performance, it warrants 0.3 above F-80C.
So yeah, I’m not interested in someone that claims Statshark and WTRTI are wrong, and the only way to prove that Starshark and WTRTI are wrong is to bail from the parameters given, and give F-80C advantage changing the goalposts.
Okay, lets do the 1v1 with your rules, set the custom, tell me the amount of fuel you want me to use and everything
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Perfect. 14 minutes initial fuel for F-80C, fuel consumption will be on, and for fairness it’ll be a map we both takeoff on. That way you can choose to save water injection or not.
We’ll swap every 3 rounds.
I will grab the final performance mod on my F-80C for our 1v1, then we can do it. [Test drive is a spaded aircraft.]
I apologize if my posts sounded harsh to you, by the way. I saw unkind things and probably responded poorly to them myself, and that’s my mistake.
Sounds good, but just to clarify, i will be playing the F-80C on the first 3 rounds, you defend the R2Y2 and i do on the F-80C.
Also Bruh, fairness is being at the same speed and same alt
If you want to be at the same altitude, use water injection at the beginning. :)
If you want to know what the results would be if we do the 1v1 maps after those 9+ rounds, then we can do some 1v1 maps afterward. Fair?
Bet, ping me when you are ready
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