Can we keep this on topic and have a friendly debate but do not insult anyone.
R2Y2 is worth it, sad to see it go but it is worth it! You should grab them before to late.
A chart after 2 minutes of flight where the R2Y2 started at 14 minutes of fuel and F-80C started at 12 minutes.
Statshark doesn’t show time to altitude, so I’ll provide test results to 4500 meters 650kph:
Climb TAS, time to 4500, time to 650 after climb:
R2Y2: 65, 165 [230], 20 [250].
F-80C: 47, 147 [194], 32 [226].
So with the water injection, the F-80C will have an initial advantage over the R2Y2.
Guns: R2Y2 hands down.
Overall this indicates a 0.3 difference in favor of R2Y2.
While F-80C has an initial better position, once the water is gone it’s gone, the R2Y2 will continue being superior in climb performance after that.
The R2Y2’s guns are objectively better which in a perfectly equal scenario itself warrants 0.3.
And for the last part, in an average match where someone brings 12 minutes of fuel in F-80C at the start, it has a slightly worse general flight performance.
In the context of air RB this would indicate F-80C being marginally worse than the R2Y2 and IMO warranted of being 0.3 BR lower.
Of course I believe that as long as F-84G remains air spawn that it too should be 8.0.
@LeadandLasers
Watching your post insult people that have played every plane they talk about… bold.
Yeah, I have bias in favor of Japanese vehicles, glad you noticed.
V1 and V2 were used in 2019/2020 when I was bad at playing fighters and you’re complaining that I have an almost 3:1 KDR in the V1, ~1.4 in the V2, and 1.6 in V3. With V3 being in-line with modern skill. You can tell I used V1 when it was 7.0 cause that KDR is impossible for a bad fighter at the time otherwise.
V3 was used exclusively during 2025.
Not sure why your first post is pushing hate on R2Y2s and good players.
In the context of you actually knowing what you’re talking about, you will notice that the F-80 is 1300kg lighter and retains so much more energy that is not even funny, maybe try it a little more or i can teach you how superior the F-80C is in a custom
Statshark says it retains a similar amount of energy while having less fuel time.
You can get into R2Y2, I’ll get in the F-80C with 14 minutes of fuel, and we can see who comes out on top.
News flash, it won’t be the F-80C.
Oh and my preferred 12 minutes of fuel in the F-80C isn’t the common fuel load players pick for air RB, it’s 14 - 17 minutes they pick. I can tell cause I out-accelerate them on runway every time.
The FOMO is real.
That’s why it needs to be 7.3 as well, as I said before. By the way, it is worse than all of the meteors that are above 7.3. but not for MD452.
Most of the experienced players will choose the lowest fuel option for early jets, even 7-10 minutes of fuel is enough for most of battles. I even preferred using 6 minutes of fuel of ME262C or 7 minutes of fuel for Meteors and F84Gs.
News Flash, you dont know how to read graps as you showed with the MiG-29 vs Mirage 2000
Nah, you play the plane you think its superior and i play the actual superior plane, after you dont even get to shoot a single time, we can change plane.
When you are in game send me a message in game
You mean how the graph showed the Mirage 2000 being superior in 1v1s…
I gave you the rules. I don’t trust you to not use water injection [which you run out of shortly after takeoff in a match IF you want to climb slightly better than the R2Y2], or set the fuel to the correct amount.
I still say that they’re BR’d correctly and the under-BR’d planes need to move up instead.
Excellent post none-the-less.
It’s sad how Reaf calls people names for being civil with each other.
Maybe 7.7 is good for R2Y2 family and ONE BIG SURE 7.0 is perfect.
I don’t think moving the 7.0s - 7.7s down to 6.0 - 6.7 is a good idea.
We don’t need high BR prop BRs “recompressed” just cause 8.0 is “decompressed” in the wrong manner.
I mean how you said the MiG-29 was better than the M2K
Get in the R2Y2 and come and dogdight with your “superior plane”, i will use wep since in a game i can just not use it untill i run in to an enemy
A men.
And the R2Y2 is above you by a significant advantage not having to worry about lower thrust.
And I said M2K was better in a 1v1, and I said in the air RB context they were similar.
Lets see how the R2Y2 does against the F-80C
I am still waiting
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Since i showed him that he doesnt know what he is talking about when he claimed that the Mirage 2000 was better than the MiG-29, this is the second time he’s hidden his tail between his legs.