Yup, R-73 offcourse getting the crown of being compared rather favorably to the Aim-9L in germany.
Which offcourse is not a bad feat by any means given it kickstarted the rush towards Aim-9X and IRIS-T. Allegedly anyways, idk how firm those claims actually are.
I regret the effort and time I spent here. We are worthy of the game we have is all I am going to say…
they are capable of penetrating any Russian air defenses
They forgot about VARIANTS,…
They check the last one, which is not the one in game,…
You did when you argued for a missile that would be would beat every ir missile in the game
So we just trust that this is pure evidence with 0 conflict of interest, right?
The way war thunder works is for some reason we should blindly trust weapon manufacturers if they show off pretty graphs. But we get a bit more skeptical (Rightly, in my opinion) when some contextless poorly explained numbers are shown (G overload and XG maneuvering target, or in tank case X billion mm pen) on marketing placards or low-detail manuals.
Military Industrial Complexes are of course world renowned and famous for always being sincere and truthful, they would absolutely never lie by omission.
For me, I’d say all sides in any conflict have it in their best interests to fabricate as much as possible. So IDK if a Khinzhal was really shot down by a Patriot.
It’s really shakey ground, bending over backwards and mental gymnastics. Not the same at all as this.
They should bump the G up more because Stinger and Mistral aren’t bang-bang, but 22g would be excessive. Gaijin also literally gave us Type-81C, so it’s not like some kind of enforced NATO suffering by the evil Russians at Gaijin headquarters (Who presumably also go “muahahaha” when they purposefully nerf wonderful and flawless NATO gear)
It is, however, extremely characteristic of Gaijin to run Britain over with a bus at just about every opportunity.
I partially agree, just that R-27R is outright worse than AIM-7M, so we’d be looking at lower BR’s for those planes. Seems Gaijin is doing their usual stuff of somewhat intentionally crippling planes using the margins of the evidence. MiG-29 and Su-27 are f*cked over so they have to rely on ER to stay at the BR they have. No idea why Gaijin doesn’t just fix those flight models and remove the ER but who are we to question their majesty.
Yep, that is is the heart of this thread and the issue.
Gaijin suck at balancing things fairly. Fighting Su-27 in the Gripen C can be rather chore like at times (in SB)
Lol wut. The Grippy just shits on anything it meets in both RB and SB. The HMD and 9Ms are powerful combo.
I can see the su27 being better in simulator as it flies better in sim a believe and the bvr is much better then the gripen
The 27 is very big and heavy missle bus. And even in sim the 27ERs have no real value as people hug ground there just like RB all the time. Its more viable to just take 6x R-73s. And even when it might turn better in sim, its just for the initial turn, then it turns into a brick. Meanwhile Gripen will out turn it at all speeds. Basically the best plane of the last update is Gripen, it have no match. I dont think any other plane in RB i seen people atleast got to 3+ K/D and 77% WR when flying solo between me and multiple of my friends.
Like the 27ER AND 27ET very nice for long range on the deck shots on unsuspecting enemies with ET and ER would smack anyone who stops hugging the ground
I was on about sim performance where i believe due to lack of instructor it flyies better
Prob is, when you get Su-27 on RWR or basically any sign of anyone locking you, you gotta be dummy to go up instead of down. But ofc you come across people like that. The ET might work unless someone preflares and it decides to go after first flare within 20 km it sees and goes nowhere.
Yeah with ET you got to pick your targets carefully
yea hes have a big skill issue
Not in a headon fight, where R-27ER slaps you with ease every time. When you should be able to lock and fire at 10 to 15 Kms you can barely lock on at 3kms.
It’s a chore because you have to defeat the R-27ER and then do a 180 to get onto it’s tail and then wait for him to run out flares before firing an Aim9M.
Not too mention the fact that the Gripens radar is a buggy placeholder mess at the moment that barely works.
If you are dying to 27ERs then its skill issue. Not Gripen or Su-27 issue. Yes the radar is placeholder atm,its using F-16C radar,which is great. Also 9km rear aspect shots are possible with 9M as i did that multiple times in RB, as for SB front aspect 5 nm launch lead to kill aswell.
UK rn have the strongest top tier jet, backed up by another great jet which is Tornado F.3. And before you start how Tornado is unusable, i have 2+ K/D on it in both RB and SB and i started flying it when it was facing 16Cs and i had no issues with them.
I can barely get them to lock, in front aspect past about 2km with SEAM…
They should have a lock range of 15kms that is fact
The radar is a buggy mess. I already have on report in for ghost contacts (radar contacts that aren’t there) but also need to put one in for it swapping to random targets.
It should be a hell of a lot better than the F16s radar.
Tornado F3 should never be at 11.7. to do so it just a screw you to Britain from Gaijin. Needs to be 11.3.
Iaw Russians Kinzhalnhas Mach 10 speeds but but it is probably jus a bit faster then Isjader M with Mach 6-7.
Well there are debris of Kinzhal missiles in Kyjev and we can presume that they did not just fall out of the sky themselves and something downed those missiles, in this case Patriot.
So there are two possibilities. Either the Khinzal is not that fast, or Patriot is more capable than declared.
Something might’ve malfunctioned so that’s a third possibility.
But I wouldn’t expect average WT forum user to think of this one.
All the “Air Superiority” patch radars are.
Su-27 instructor doesn’t work well either.
There are plenty of “schizo” tinfoil hat reasoning (or alternatively quite reasonable extrapolations) I could provide that this isn’t the case, but so far only US aligned media outlets are saying such things about Kinzhal. I will wait for trustworthy sources (ones not hiring guys who work(ed) for hawk think tanks) to comment or report rather than taking the word of either side.
