R-77s are horrid and the R-77-1 is needed

I have Russian top tier…

yea, that’s 0.8km beyond that range it will not relock

Blessed western or whatever not knowing what is happening on the RU forums/comment sections

russians complaining about russian vehicles is natural, especially on a russophone forum. While here it’s the international one, not american

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This might’ve been bad flare management on my part but back then R-60Ms could do stuff like this because all allaspects had really good flare resistance.

Did it proxy on chaff wtf

Doubt it would’ve killed me that way. The R-60M has little explosive filler compared to other missiles.

just LOL, i remember those.

“bUt it’S sO GOoD iN a DogFIghT”

And now, they have the same guidance delay, R-60M and 9L

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The 9L has a longer guidance delay

They are basically the same now. R-60M has no advantages what so ever, except extreme shots at knife range

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R-60M still has better track rate which still matters

Yeah r60 doesn’t outpull the 9l now at all. the fuse delay is the only advantage it has for point blank headons

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not in 99/100 cases. thats a stretch my dude, stop defending the moth missile. it is literally garbage

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Its garbage in high tiers but its not trash at like 11.0.

I would still take AIM-9G over the R-60M. If both are gonna get flared anyway, at least 9G has like 2.5X the range, and is great for stealth shots at high altitude.

I like the R-60Ms for headons for my MiG-21bis

As well, this combines into SU-27 Radar (N001V/N001VEP)TWS scan not Slewing to Soft Lock?

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Just launch them at the 300m mark head to head. It will chase the flares every time, but the flares will be within proxy fuse range of the target.

Unless the opponent is smart enough to pre-flare. Then you should have just used guns instead of the R-60meme

The Mig29 was very strong. The f16 had a maximum overload of 9g, meanwhile the mig29 had no such speed loss or overload limitations. However when the 29cmt came out they destroyed both mig29s, the first one suffered less but now it loses speed pretty badly. And the SMT can’t do anything at all.
But then there was balance, for the f16 was many times better at raitfighting, with better 9L