R-77s are horrid and the R-77-1 is needed

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817

Оh, yeah.
“Non-existent” missiles.
So “non-existent”, that in 1985, been 3 successful test launches, from MiG-29 №970, and 971.

R-27EM (modified EA, that can intercept targets on height 3 meters above water level) - yes, i ain’t hear anything about them. Those ones really looks like a just project.

But R-27EP, and EA - is fully tested, and available for production missiles.

Like ADATS, or LOSAT.

Or only USA can have “test” missiles that ain’t be in service?
(I know about Canadian ADATS - let Brits have ones.)

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818

Well, for that you need to live long enough, and still have a opponent who get to airfield, and ain’t see you (otherwise he/she just flare your missle).

So i still just try to space strike with ET’s.
Or use it for unaware guys running to AF. (Here risk to enemy outrun the missle)

In any case - it reasonably good against foes who dont know that the attacked.

819

My goodness, am I against it? I’m all for it! Of course, Gaijin should add this missile to the planes that could use it. By the way, which planes could actually use this missile?

820

And what is the reality? Burnt-out Abrams,Bradleys,Leopards, non-working Javelins, curves of AGM-88 missiles

821

EM is ER with better seeker.

But never produced, and there must be a reasons, might be because of their bad stats and usage

822

R-27EA It didn’t exist

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823

Sanchouzz vs BBCRF.
Round 1
FIGHT!

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824

The R27 EP was produced and is in service

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825

About 6,000 units of destroyed military equipment (with confirmation). Widely advertised air defense systems unable to shoot down a simple ballistic missile. 4+++++++ and 5th generation aircraft unable to achieve air superiority in 3 years against a handful of 1980s aircraft. I feel like we’ve discussed this already.

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826

not serial mass production. Only few missiles seen on planes, mostly same as KH-38, just on events.

As fun fact - R-77 also was in service, but never produced for Russian AF

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828

The R-27EP is an anti-radiation missile though isn’t it? Not that useful for air combat.

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829

It might be usefull if you have awacs in 10km away, but why not use any other missile?

Also, 27P have very limited seeker range and frequencies

832

This is a serial missile.KH-38 is used every day in conflict

833

No, it’s a missile for aerial defensive combat. Be guided by radar radiation

836

Not a single shot down

837

Kh-38 is used every day

842

There’s just some inexplicable hole in the side of the penetrator.

843

It’s not a Kinzhal.

845

All, who can use R-27ER, can use R-27EA/EP.
It still radar missles, just not SARH, but with ARH, and PRH seekers.

P.S.

Btw, in first quarter of 1980’s the MiG-23ML launched 22 software missiles, as well as six missiles with thermal seekers at parachute targets and La-17.
Another 14 missiles with IR seekers were launched against similar targets with the Su-15T (but it isn’t interesting), completing them in 1980 rocket testing on this flying laboratory.
State tests of the thermal version of the rocket began in May 1980 on the third experimental (not yet equipped with radar), MiG-29 No. 902 (aka 912/3). This lack of equipment did not prevent the testing of a missile with a thermal seeker.
In 1981 autonomous launches from the MiG-23ML flying laboratory began the factory stage of testing the “SARH” missile.

So even 23ML can use at least R-27R/T.
But i dont want see it - it will set those not-more-so-good for 11.3 plane to 12.0.

I prefer get MiG-23-98 with better radar/avionics, R-27ER/ET and R-73 as 12.0 premium plane.

847

As i know, 27EM - have ARH seeker, so it rather EA-like, than ER-like.
But i can be wrong - dont sure about that.

How it can be never produced, if it even be tested?
But about “bad stats and usage” - nah, resources just been re-assigned to R-77 program, and further development/production been able only by initiative of NII/SRI (Science Research Institute) “Agat”.