I’ve actually been hit by R-73s in headons before. Sometimes, when I zone out and just flare once or twice, then get scared by a missile coming at me, it completely misses. That missile is an AIM-9M. It’s just not plausible to use it in headons, and for that reason I never do. Besides headon use, I do think the AIM-9M is better.
Or you’re in denial and making sh1t up.
The only way to get a consistent kill with the R-73 is either rear aspect, firing upon a clueless person or switching to the F-16C instead.
I’ve actually been hit by R-73s in headons before
Because you are probably not playing right then as that would be quite literally the only explanation, you can’t just slowly tap the flare key every decade and expect the R-73 to go stupid.
The last time I’ve died to the R-73 was like couple days ago and that was a rare case, excluding that instance it would’ve been like couple weeks back.
I can see why.
Nah.
At best its down to luck. However, front aspect AIM-9M is two flare and pull. Always has been.
Or its because nobody survives EVERY fight they get into. You’d be lying if you were to say you never got a front aspect R-73 kill.
I doubt.
I actually use the R-73s headon. I prefer to fire them kind of offbore headon so that the missile will have a kind of side aspect so theres a chance the FoV doesn’t see the flares. Also I usually slave my R-73 to my radar so it doesn’t get pre-flared as easily.
The R-73 can only destroy targets in the headon from extremely short distances, without seeing the flares
Or its because nobody survives EVERY fight they get into. You’d be lying if you were to say you never got a front aspect R-73 kill
I’ve gotten like 2 or maybe 3 (if you’re pushing it) frontal aspect kills with the R-73, the far majority of my kills are either with guns or radar missiles since both are much more reliable.
I prefer to fire them kind of offbore headon so that the missile will have a kind of side aspect so theres a chance the FoV doesn’t see the flares
Not really the front aspect but their front incline, that method however is decent depending on terrain and if the bandit has a functional brain. Usually this requires you to fly a tiny bit high to avoid getting your wings clipped into the ground and they can punish you with that by using their AIM-120s or other ARH missile on hand.
I doubt
You can cope about it if you believe me or not but that’s what it is, the enemy was flying a MiG-29SMT and caught me mostly by surprised since I was already evading 3 bandits on my six (my entire team dropped).
Spam flares moderately, enough so that there isn’t a big gap between each flare but also not too much where you dump all your flares and then all you need to do is change heading so that IOG doesn’t kill you.
This is from my experience from using both the R-73 and the 9M. The R-73 is easier to accidentally flare. However, the 9M is easier to intentionally flare. Its kinda hard to explain. Like sometimes an R-73 is coming at you but no matter what you do you can’t flare it, but a 9M will always be flarable. Both are pretty equal though.
R-73 is random. Not reliable.
9m more predictable and reliable
But in nost cases 9m better than R73 except very close range fights
Maybe.
Still bad chances.
I understand how flare R-73, from all aspects, so i ain fear it. (Still can be a dumb unluck, or bad position, or just stealthy launch).
But i haven’t any idea how flare 9M for special.
It just don’t give a F about my flares, and continue specifically chasing my arse.
So i just decide don’t get in dogfights (until get Gripen), and do my best to get enemies killed by S/ARH or stealthy launches of R-73/27ET.
(27ET, btw have shitty IRCCM too. Just seen how F-15 MSIP flared it from 0.8 km, just spamming flares, he ain’t even get WEP off. But at least it have good range… from rear (locking from all another aspects is nerfed for 27ET tbh.))
You may need R27EA
R-27EA would be far too good for the current game; It would have the best kinetic performance over any missile in game or to be seen for a while.
I really like to take 27EA then R-77, but it can be slightly too good for now.
Or not.
For better speed it will have not so good manouverability as AIM-120.
So maybe it even can be called “asymmetrical balance”.
Imagination missiles… better no
Did it even was produced or prototyped only?
R-27 Et has 1.33 degrees fov. On 800 meters radius of cone’s base will be around 9 meters. So all flares was in fov.
Well, so about what everyone talking, while say about 27ET IRCCM in that case?
Only one IRCCM for that missle i know - is a stealthy launch, at careless foe.
But first flare, even not for my missle (most times, enemy start spamming flares, because someone else try to hit them by SRAAM (class, not missle), it’s like how enemies deflect my R-73/27ET by launching their own missiles (lately this has been a fairly common and situation), even ain’t understanding that they just save themselves) will deflect my missle strike.
It has fov shrinking from 2 degrees yo 1.33. So it has irccm mark in statcard.
Do the Russians need yet another missile that they never had? Oh wow!
Most useful will be just to kill ppl, that landing