R-77-1 but no AIM-120C-5?

lol Physically not possible.
Also 7M/ER were the same can of worms.
AMRAAMs were always going to come as those are the only radar missiles some aircraft can use.

Physically not possible? its entirely possible physical or otherwise for gaijin to not add something to the game. as for it being the only missile that some planes can use, they don’t need to be added, they only where because of fox3s where.
You are correct about the 7M/ER in that there are both significant upgraded over the 7F/27R respectively but the ER is the most noticeable for the average player, not that Gaijin admits there is a difference between the F/M. I think the 7P with the F/A-18 radar will be a fair counter to the ER for players that have the brains to use it’s DL abilities.
But the main point I wanted to make is that I never said ERs or fox 3 shouldn’t be added… just that I don’t think the game was ready for it yet. I think Gaijin is rushing them with out proper testing or balancing.

SARHs don’t have DL abilities that we can use.
Either way, AIM-7F is one of the primary reasons ER was added to begin with, as AIM-7F/M were by far the most powerful missiles in the game.
R-27R was only marginally better than AIM-7E-2, but 7F was far more powerful than both.
What all are like today… eh, that’s up for discussion.

I was under the impression the ERs where a response to R60m being significantly worse than the AIM 9Ls when introduced, I never notice much difference with the R27s that wasn’t just bad soviet radar. I have been testing the R27er DL in test drive with the talk about the Aim-7P and it seems to function… not that its an issue with the missiles speed. but I can imagine if the F/A18s radar is decent it could be extremely potent when paired with the 2 stage motor for a smart player.
While I agree Russian planes don’t have the radars to get much out of DL abilities, the Hornet with its radar and 2 stage booster missiles could be really nasty in the hands of a player with the brains to exploit it.

There were two reasons why ERs were chosen:
One was the obvious: Mig-29 was over-BR’d and needed to either be brought down or be given a new weapon that could keep it the same BR [no, R-73s were never going to be that weapon as we see with Mig-29G].
The second was the AIM-7F’s power creep was so monstrous that it needed some response somewhere.
AIM-7F was in USA, Japan, China, and Italy while Germany and USSR had no equivalent.

Of course 7F couldn’t be removed as that’s the only AIM-7 version a number of these aircraft could even fire due to the loss of CW emitters for the older missiles.

So an equivalent range missile that could get to its target a tad faster was less of a powercreep than the AIM-7F, while being able to keep the Mig-29 competitive at its BR without having to lower the BR.

Yeah I see what you mean, .5 Mach slower combined with the slow target acquisition of soviet radars… and IR missiles are slower still, 2.5 Mach tops R27ETs aside. But all they did was just make a bad problem worse

This happens on a regular basis. Turn left, turn right, recommit while climbing and the R-77 falls out of the sky.

F-16V though taiwan? is that real lol?

no i mean china getting it, considering how china and taiwan is

They have an entire Taiwanese line? There’s 0 reason it shouldn’t be there. The already have the Taiwanese F-16A too.

Ahahaha, so peak. i actually didn’t know they did that

Could also come through pakistan, sooner or later there has to be a subtree.

As if gaijin didnt gimp the R-77 with artificial drag.

Terrible take you have.
Maybe gaijin should just add the R-37M with its 300km range, while the aim-260 is still just a design on paper.

Yeah give me my Mig31 wit my r33 and r37

Gaijin always looking for excuses to add something from the modern era to Russia with the excuse of ‘‘they need it’’, sorry but not our fault they are behind on the technological race, but the irony is the R-77-1 is from 2010, implemented by the Russian army in 2015, meanwhile the AIM-120C is from 1996, then they’re adding the SU 30sm with TV which is from 2012, and America and every other nation by this point should have the AIM 9X, they can even just copy paste the R 73 so is not as insane as it is in real life. but i know it won’t happen because this is the same company that self nerf the Tunguska as an excuse to add the Pantsir haha

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The years they are implemented are irrelevant, only capability and BR. Otherwise, you will end up with J7s (aka MiG-21) vs F22, fair? Nope. R-77-1 is nerfed as well, still inferior to AMRAAM in most cases, but obviously you are ignoring the fact that every other ARH in game is nerfed except AMRAAM.

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Entered service in 1993 but I digress.

It got its first kill in 1993. It was operational in 1991

You will lose the unfair br examples battle, don’t even start it. AMRAAM is nerfed as well. Though it’s funny that you all are saying that R-77 and R-77-1 are nerfed like it’s an obvious fact or something. I’d bet R-77 was barely able to fly IRL. While R-77-1 was kinda flying.