That you hate just one of them (Germany) ;P
The F-16 AJ is a work of complete fiction, so the Argentinian F-16 by comparison has a stronger reason to be added.
Is it though? IIRC the Eurofighter’s flight performance will demolish pretty much any plane outside of Gen-5 or those that are equipped with TVC.
You are right, the F-16AJ is a work of complete fiction and a vehicle that Gaijin stated themselves in their own dev-blog to be an exception. This denies any reason the Argentinian F-16 should be added to Germany for two reasons
A. Argentina is NOT a sub tree of Germany and hasn’t been announced or confirmed to be. The TAMs are just in the tree because they are built using German parts like any other vehicle from a different service country in Germany eg Leopard 2 PL.
B. The Argentinian F-16 is ultimately an F-16 and would be more likely to appear in the US Tech tree as a premium/event vehicle given that its an AM model and the US has more domestic models that can be slapped into the TT.
I’m not against Germany getting an F-16 as I believe all nations should be on par to some degree. If Gaijin accepts they want to add Argentina as a confirmed sub tree for Germany then I’d be all for the Danish sold Argentinian F-16s to be add but right now its just as fictional as the F-16AJ.
People have generally given up on Argentina as a whole once Smin confirmed that they’re a no-go tbh, so I don’t see a reason to continue discussing any potential F-16 additions to Germany unless somehow, in the future, Gaijin decides for Argentina’s place in the game to change from just being an “older Canada” (i.e vehicle goes to a TT it fits the best) to a proper German sub-tree.
Now Switzerland is the main attraction due to what a certain dataminer stated.
I don’t know a lot about Switzerland, but I assume they have more German/German inspired vehicles to pull from or at the very least interesting vehicles that would benefit the German TT.
At the very least they operate Leopard 2s, and some of their companies or rather ex-companies have participated in the creation of the SkyRanger 30 & 35, and they’re the ones behind 30 & 35mm APFSDS for German IFVs.
Their main attraction at the moment however, is the fact they had trialed the Gripen C, and maybe, possibly, leased it for a while, oh and also the F-18C but it’s mostly a bonus prize to a possible Gripen.
edit: actually now that I think about this, would be extremely funny if the first Leopard 2A4(C) added to WT were to come from a Swiss sub-TT, despite the fact Germany operated the C variant very much en masse.
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I am waiting for the Tempest prototype to finish construction.
I would very much like that unique proto.
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Why not add Romania to Germany.
Allies in WWII
Both Romania and the DDR where satellite states of the USSR
Both are in NATO
Romania operates F-16 AM’s
And they have more cool vehicles. MiG-21 LanceR, MiG-29 sniper.
And for the future, Romania expects F-35’s
Romanian vehicles are placed in the Italian TT and it’s part of it.
Only 3 planes, and Germany also has 1 Romanian plane.
Germany and Romania share a similar history, from WWII to now, military wise. Germany and Romania use(d) similar vehicles (both ground vehicles and aircraft). They also had a project to make a 3rd generation mbt for Romania, the TR B2 4. It was basically a T-72/Leopard 2A5 hybrid.
Italy already has the Hungarian sub tree and multiple vehicles from different nations. If Gaijin were to add more Spanish, Portugese and Brazilian vehicles, they would end up in the Italian TT.
I still remember as they introduced the Tornado and discussion was about why it just could mount one GBU-24. All heavy weight pylons are technically identical. It can carry massive loads of dumb bombs and huge fuel tanks on these pylons. But Gajin did not allow to mount GBU-24 on these. Cause there’s no photo aviable or something. Its such a huge bus, but can’t carry more than one GBU-24. While other nations light weight fighters carry up to eight guided ordnance pieces.
In case of German air Gajin and tech mods are absolutly merciless. Everything must be 100% proven, even if its leads to absolutly bizarre results like an 11.7 striker which is able to just carry one GBU-24. Absolutely unsustainable, useless. Its the same with the top Phantom, which just has two Mavericks at BR 12.7 and for 850 spawn points.
Every other game company would have just added the triple Maverick rails, regardless of Luftwaffe bought them or not. Same for the GBU-24 @ Tornado wing pylons. Otherwise no one plays this stuff. Plain and simple. Why spawning a plane with no weapons? Also keep in mind that other nations get whole fantasy jets or unarmed rl prototypes which suddenly have full ingame ordnance and subsystems.
This kind of reasoning leads to a totally anemic air tree with almost zero capabilities in GRB. The second best solution, like getting the NL F-16 was rejected as well. Its just not fair and community is fine with it… cause… a litening pods + one GBU-24 is totally fine (vs Pantsir or what^^).
Edit: Why was this flagged?
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The work people did on these forums to get the ICE its correct loadsouts and what not was truly amazing. Just watching people quickly submit bug reports to get the thing right in such a short time was really something.
Still sad it didn’t get the 120B
Playable loadouts beat correct loadouts, tbh. There need to be compromises.
Now I have the Tornado ASSTA and an F-4F Ice in my hangar, but I never spawn them. They are just not worth to be spawned in GRB with these joke loadouts.
For Air RB you can easily use the MFG or WTD Tornado, its identical for AIr RB purposes, at a lower BR than the ASSTA. In GRB you surely won’t spawn a strike jet with that anemic loadout vs Pantsirs. Congratulations for all this work to get us unplayable stuff.
Not that it changes anything, they are identical.
Special ability being pickpocketing ammo from enemies nearby lol
I know, I was just hoping it get a little special treatment.
I agree, especially when it’s going to be the only vehicle for awhile. They’ve made compromises in the past, I don’t see why it would have been a big deal.
I was just saying how impressed with how hard everyone worked. The thing was gonna have AIM-9Ls for its best IR missile which would have been nuts.
Thats true. Still Swedes have the better german aim-9l mod .)
Gaijin has stated that the Italian TT is the home of minor axis vehicles.
That just doesn’t make sense. When did they say that?