haha yeah. That would be funny. I know Brimstones are suppose to be usable vs helis IRL. So I am wondering how good the Tornado Gr4 will be in A2A combat :P
But they need ot make an effort adding some different types of weapon systems to the game. Not ncessarily better, just different.
I’m always down for new mechanics, I’m surprised they haven’t added cluster bombs yet.
CBUs would be AWESOME.
Would probably save the Tornado when it comes to CAS and the MW-1 for Germany would be an hilarious weapon system :D
Here before this gets nuked
Just asking whether there is any truth of this or is it total PS.
It’s a F-16C block 42 crash from 10 years ago in Kansas
Anyway, it’s off-topic
It won’t matter. APKWS is already ingame and incorrectly limited as to what warheads it can carry, and how large the launchers can be.
Yeah I know :(
That’s the entire point? It’s a “strike” aircraft, yet it’s worse at being that than a multi-role jet.
It can take only a single GBU-24, the 16C can take two in addition to six Mav Ds and 2 AMRAAMs (wing pylons). The F-16 also has a Litening pod (lightning???)
They have not officially stated that Germany gets to be the one stop shop for all things air at this time. It should stay that way. The smart thing is to keep it this way. As of right now, Germany is not slated to get the F18. Just like they don’t have the F16 which is also a good thing. Its sitting in enough countries as it is.
Removes the uniqueness of playing multiple nations, and its silly.
Where were you when Leopard 2s started being handed out? Also, what’s unique about playing a Finnish F-18C, or a Canadian, or a US one for that matter, but not a Swiss one?
Your point about Germany needing to “remain unique” is a horseload of horseshit. They’ve already many Western & Eastern designs that aren’t “unique” to just them, how will adding an F-18C via a Swiss sub-tree make them any less unique? It just makes them better.
You just don’t want Germany to actually be on par with your favourite nation(s) lmao.
That would actually be fine, since the F15C carries the Aim-120C (all generations), Aim-120Ds, AMRAAMER, and Aim-9X II. So I am fine with them going into the game and updating the F15Cs armament correctly.
Thank you for proving that you only care about balance when it’s in US’ favor, truly, the smartest US main among all of the US mains of all time.
Germany should stop crying and just accept not being the absolute best at everything at every BR for a bit… Sure other nations have better Leo2… welcome to the life of the USA main… and you don’t have the best air? shockingly after WW2 nobody wanted to arm Germany to the teeth with the most advanced tech… Go figure… if it wasn’t for the cold war Germany would probably be getting hit with nukes every time one of them picked up a rock…
How is wanting to have a jet that’s on par with those of others “wanting to be the best at everything”?
Sure other nations have better Leo2…
Literally nobody has brought up the matter of how capable different Leopard 2 variants are.
welcome to the life of the USA main… and you don’t have the best air? shockingly after WW2 nobody wanted to arm Germany to the teeth with the most advanced tech…
And how is Germany’s situation after WW2 relevant to the game’s balance? Actually, do you not see the contradiction in your paragraph at all - where, you talk down German players for wanting to be on equal footing with others, just to immediately follow it up with “yea others have better Leo 2s than you, that’s fine, just stop crying”.
Are you stupid?
They have on par jets at all BRs they have jets at, remember japan had to fight F-16s with the EJ kai for months before the AJ. Germany already has the best Mig-29 for its BR and your now crying it doesn’t get R-77s Germany never had. or a plane Germany never used.
Except in every German ground forum thread where they are crying non stop " BUT WHY EVEN PLAY GERMANY WITH SWEDEN AND HUNGRY L2s??"
SHOCKINGLY a huge gap in being allowed to develop militarily tech causes a large gap in a nations tech tree… The Leo 2 are not a contradiction as they post date the ban on German military development.
Cool opening.
They have on par jets at all BRs they have jets at, remember japan had to fight F-16s with the EJ kai for months before the AJ.
So because Japan had to suffer, Germany should too? That’s hypocrisy.
Except in every German ground forum thread where they are crying non stop " BUT WHY EVEN PLAY GERMANY WITH SWEDEN AND HUNGRY L2s??"
'Kay, and how is a thread about how Germany would go about getting an F-16 related to them…?
SHOCKINGLY a huge gap in being allowed to develop militarily tech causes a large gap in a nations tech tree… The Leo 2 are not a contradiction as they post date the ban on German military development.
The ban was for manufacturing aircraft, not designing and developing them.
Germany already has the best Mig-29 for its BR and your now crying it doesn’t get R-77s Germany never had. or a plane Germany never used.
Do show me where and when “I have cried” about the MiG-29A/G not getting R-77s (of course you never will, you’re just talking nonsense).
No, its called an example. when a nation has a historical void in their military’s development they don’t get magic fantasies to fill the void in game… at least until other nations get their actual historic equipment… not disproving my “stupid” hypostasis here…
A hypocritical example, yes. That’s what it is. Nations with historical voids tend to receive fillers until their own domestic or foreign but operated by them designs can make their way into the game. Japan, Italy & Germany (but also UK) have all been a victim of this, and what do you think happened? All but two of them have received sub-trees to fill in these gaps, can you guess who has been left out?
(FYI: Japan is going to get a sub-tree “soonish”.)
And yes, they sometimes do get “magic fantasies” to fill said void, F-16AJ is one, Hunter F.58 is another, Ito-90M in the French TT is also an example.
pointing out the hypocrisy of Germany wanting other nations tech, but not wanting other nations to have theirs… “NOBODY ELSE SHOULD HAVE LEO 2… WHY WE NOT HAVE F-16 (that Germany never used)… ANTI GERMAN BIAS!!!”
Put some intelligence into your eyes and see that the thread’s name presents a hypothetical question…
It’s also pretty rude of you to over-generalize an entire group of players as “crybabies that want the whole world” based on what you’ve seen in steam comments. So y’know, maybe take your own advice here and “put some intelligence” in the way you think.
Sure bub, I’m rude… that makes me wrong how? and try something more substantial then “your wrong cuz u mean”
Lmao. You took a small sample of people and extrapolated it to a whole group where each person has a differing opinion or point of view. There’s a whole lot of wrongs with that. However, I’m not gonna bother myself with you anymore since I’ve come to understand that I’m talking to an idiot.
Have a nice day.
That’s called projection, but what ever you need to tell yourself to avoid facing the fact that Germany is just going through the usual back and forth swing of the “OP” nations
I don’t know if its a small group or not, but YOU are part of the group calming that Germany needs a better plane than any other currently in the game to be “balanced”:
so I reiterate me initial point:
But thanks for proving Germany is a bunch of cry babies that cant handle not having the absolute best in game for a couple of patches.
Argentina hasn’t officially received their F-16s yet, so as far as that goes its a fictional addition till they receive them. In regards to the Danish F-16. Denmark is unrelated to Germany in game so that already cancels that happening.
Honestly just wait patiently as planes like the Eurofighter Typhoon are just around the corner and then you’ll have a fancy top tier jet like the rest of the nations.
Also to note, the Argentinian F-16s aren’t likely to happen in the first place as Argentina is not recognized as an official sub tree of Germany and they only have vehicles in the tech tree because they incorporate German components.
I will let you figure out by yourself what the difference between these nations is.
