since it was removed for no reason imma post it again:
10.3 would be a good br for it, this plane is mid in everything but the missiles in which case having 2 good missiles on a bad airframe wouldnt really hurt compression (also q5a and q5l to 9.7 unless the q5a gets pl2s and the q5l gets pl5bs and maybe then move it to 10.3 aswell).
this plane is barely supersonic, if you get to said speed you compress a lot, the guns are abysmal and the loadout is eh, you get 4 fire bombs (which at the moment out perform for some reason) and your 2 missiles are fine, the problem with said missiles is again the airframe they are equiped at, if it was an agile airframe like a mirage then yes 10.7 is a ok br, but they are in a glorified heavier and less agile mig-19 which is not good at all
not really, the mirage 3 is a way better and more capable airframe than the a5c is
Their energy retention is horrible, they have bad instantaneous turn rate on top of that. Acceleration is worse. The only characteristics that are better is top speed, roll rate and gun damage.
The Mirage IIIC is better than the others since it’s a lot lighter but you get no countermeasures, and still considerably worse than the A5C
the a5c has better energy retention because it compresses like crazy which basicaly means you cannot get your guns on target 90% of the time, the instantaneous turn rate of the mirage is better than the a5c in like again 90% of the time exept maybe at like very very slow speeds
in a 1v1 scenario where both players have same skill levels the a5c looses to the mirage 3 in every way
A-5C isn’t overtired, and far from it. J-7D is just undertiered.
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It compresses, but even at slower speeds (<800kph) where it starts to turn very well it still has very good energy retention.
Learn to control your speed with the airbrake. But don’t lower your engine throttle to 0% because the Mig-19s/A-5C take a very long time to spool up again if you cut throttle (they also spool down slowly btw). Just turn off afterburner and use airbrake and slot yourself in lag pursuit, then get an easy kill.
No. It pulls too much AoA, doesn’t turn enough as a return, bleeds all its speed… The MirageIIIE is even worse than a mig21 in that regard, with a worse acceleration to top it off.
The mirage will pull around the same as the A5C at like 1000kph actually, at 900-800kph the mirage can pull a maximum of 26-25deg/s during just a few seconds while depleting all its speed to around 600kph where it goes back to a bad turn rate of 19-20deg/s and gradually decreases till you get to its garbage sustained turn rate of around 14.5 deg/s
The A5C will hold 25-24 deg/s for a lot longer till you get into its sustained turn rate of about 20deg/s
Does your scenario involve room temperature IQ levels for both players? Even then how would you guarantee that the mirage wins every time? It might crash into the ground first some of the times at that hypothetical skill level lol
Have you even played the A-5C?…
Have you played the 111? If you did youd know I’m right
Lowest it should be is 10.3. Like it’s slower than other 10.3’s and trades quantity in r60/aim9p for higher quality(magic) but would be too good at 10.0.
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Damn I didn’t even realise you were talking about the F-111 lmao
mirage IIIC have 530 f8e have aim9c Shahak mig23m have r23r mirage IIIS c.70 and many more have
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I’m fully agreed. I bought it during birthday sale to research 5 and 6 tiers. It’s really difficult.
It almost had never been at 9.7-10.7.
It’s about 40% time 10.7-11.7, 40% time 10.3-11.3, and others 10-11.
It’s pretty simple target for fighters 10.3
Max speed ~1200kmh, Saab 35/Mig-21/F-5 can reach it without problem.
More than - all aircraft which are going to bomb bases in my battles are faster than me (F-111, Tornado, Mig-23, Su-17, Su-22)
Guns - shit. All your opponents faster and have flares, so 2 missiles it’s not a big opportunity.
So, in 50% chances I just fly across all battle field, see how my bases was steel by someone and get killed by 2-3 fighters.
I had about 100 battles on it.
This really should be at 10.3
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It should be 10.3.
The airframe is awful. As with all early supersonics, the Mig-19 (which the Q-5 is based on) has severe compression issues at high speed.
It’s fine where it is, sure its not the overpowerhouse it used to be, but it’s still decent for what it is and with current compression it sits at the appropriate BR.
That’s exactly what it is, with some decent air to air. It can kill 2 bases or a bunch of ground targets, then take out air targets of opportunity.
Q-5s have no A2A missiles.
no, because then it will be fighting the planes that got it to it’s current BR to begin with. quite a number of planes at 10.3, neverminded 9.3/ 9.0 have no countermeasures and Magics are guaranteed kills on them.
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