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HE-ExR
the shell type referenced here in this post i am replying to
is a shell with a ramjet assist
which is exactly what you think. It is a Artillery shell, with a ram jet engine integrated into to shell itself.
SOON
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@MBDA_Meteor Are you sure that the Hungarian one is too an A1 ? I looked at it more thoroughly since one is in the leaks for Germany and the HU one has a different cooling system protruding out the top of the hull, in the front, and there is also a box in front of the cooling system that resembles a camera/optic .
I was mostly comparing it to the Italian one which is from the 1998-2000 period, but I see that the German one is also missing these.
The Hungarian one is also not called A1, but PzH 2000HU.
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I’m not sure that Hungarian varient is A1.
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Im REALLY hoping it gets that L15A1 for its HEVT shell (seeing as it can be given a proxy fuze), particularly since the recent change allowing you to switch between enabling or disabling the proxy fuze on proxy shells.
I also hope to god I dont have to see that stupid M107 shell polluting the ammo load of this machine. The fact we keep seeing that trash round on every dang western SPG in-game despite it being a practice round used due to it effectively just being bad at being an artillery shell fills me with rage…
(Yes, you read that graph right, the M107 shell is LESS dangerous than some 105mm shells despite its significant size advantage…)
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wonder if itll get the 3 round clip with a 3s reload inbetween, then 6s reload between clips
I call we get an Fixed 6s reload
I call we get 3 sec reload for 3 rounds, and a 6 second “ready rack” replenishment, making us have to deal with a stupid 9 sec reload after we fire 3 rounds.
From what I see from a video about PZH-2000’s autoloader, its shell is full auto, but the propellant loading is manually, seems no “3 round clip”.
Why for 3 rounds? Makes no sense the PzH 2000 has no magazin, 1 loaded and 1 waits on the autoloader
I rechecked the video and I think I know now.
1 loaded, 1 in auto loader, and 1 in the loader of loader. that’s 3
honestely, this autoloader is too complex, no wonder it’s often broken
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Because its claimed burst fire rate is 3 rounds in 9 seconds (technically thatd actually be a 4.5 sec reload now that i think about it, not 3 second, since the first round is already loaded).
I’m of the mind that gaijin will model the loading mechanism in the absolute worst way they could possibly think of, because thats their typical MO for anything they dont like. I’m also pretty sure its how they modelled the VIDAR ingame.
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similar, except it’s full auto. K9 uses a mechanical arm to load the ammo to the autoloader too.
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As someone who worked for an short time on the PzH 2000, I exspect the worst from gaijin
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Bit different, K9 is similar to semi-automatic.
as you can see on 6:00, K9’s loader should carry shell from back of turret to mechanical arm by manually.
but PzH 2000’s shell transfer is fully automatic.
therefore PzH 2000 should have 60 ready-to use round.
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Agreed
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but it need few action, also, PZH need fully manual loading the propellant. I’d say K9 is more auto, though both of them can be modeled as full auto in game. What I checked is K9A2, which is full auto.
The K9A2 with fully automatic ammo loader
the ready ammo is also 3 for PZH I think, these are 1 loaded, 1 waits on the autoloader, and 1 wait in mechanical arm.
after the 3 shoots, still auto, but fire rate reduced
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Our topic is focused on K9~K9A1, not K9A2 which not in service yet.
I think VIDAR’s 3 ready munition is reasonable.
Currently all SPGs which in game is same on hand loaded propellant. then fully automated shell transfer can have difference then others.
So I still support PzH 2000’s 60 ready munition.
Or they can make it like as Chally 2. they have 3 ammo which 5 sec reload, next 4~ rounds have 6.5 sec.
PzH 2000’s munition after 3rd fire shold have faster reload rate then other SPGs.
I mean this, and Vidar is similar in game.
Though I don’t agree this part. The loading process is too complex, it will take longer time for sure, won’t be faster than things like 2S19/PLZ05.
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