What is this supposed to prove?
It just proves that if you’re playing it on the right map on the right spot you might score alot kills. But most maps just don’t suit Pz IV.
That the Panzer IV is a good and capable tank. As is usually the case, players have to construct a reason other than “skill issue” to explain why they do bad. Not helping the stereotype of german players being bad fellas!
I’d take the Sherman over the Panzer IV in most cases.
It’s good, but it isn’t that great
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dude, they’re angled at like 5°. If you’re failing to angle a box then that is massive skill issue.
The whole point is that the Panzer 4 does not have a box shaped hull like the Tiger 1 or T-34. When you angle the frontal armor it will expose the edges of the frontal hull where it curves inwards. Theres no reliable way to protect that area while also angling the frontal armor. You are just basically hoping that the enemy cant think or aim and will blindly hit the bit of the frontal plate that’s angled and not the rest of the armor that’s less angled than before.
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The sponson plates are angled at 15° from the front.
The tank itself can only be angled at 12° before the sponson plates start to be less effective than the front plate. Once the tank is angled at 20°, the sponson plates become susceptible to most rank I vehicles. 30° and it becomes susceptible to all rank I vehicles that haven’t been removed. 40° and it’s on the brink of being able to penetrated by the Ha-Go.
@OctopusDaddy is right that there’s no reliable way to angle it, not if you want to maintain an effective cover. You might be able to get away from 20° against newbies, but by 30° the side is a larger target than the front. 12° is the absolute best angle to maintain it, but that only increases the effective thickness of the upper frontal plate to a staggering 81-86 mm.
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i completely agree just replayed them there basically a little better than M4A1 thats it armor is worse in my opinon than any M4 model excluding the cast hull
shermans also get stablizers which help a lot
there fine where they are as for most matches i seemed to 4.0 to 4.3 at best angle you can get roughly 100mm out of your front plate with add on armor and majority of tanks at this rank pen roughly that yall complain to much and if you hit the side instead of front plate your armor is 49mms
if your having tuff time with it just shoot the side if it angles its way weaker than most 4.7s i could kill it in a stuart
Then maybe don’t just charge out into the open when you don’t know how to angle properly.
Did you even read it? There’s no way to angle properly. The best way to angle any Pz. IV is to not angle it at all, unless you can find a non-penetrable barrier to cover the thin side, but that’s highly situational and something that can really only be done defensively rather than offensively. The hull of the Pz. IV is just not built for angling like most tanks that have sloped sponson plates.
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Maybe you’re performing so poorly because you’re not trying to angle.
Marvelous retort. I have a positive k/dr with all of them, albeit it’s nothing great. Did you even bother looking up my stats on either Thunderskill or StatShark before pulling that strawman out of your rear?
The Pz. IV cannot be angled to the point that it matters. I already went over the objective reasons why in my previous comments.
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Angle a Pz4, what? Might as well angle a Sherman.
Exactly
Angling a Pz IV is analogous to angling an M4A1.
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No, it is not.
It is. You angle it, you make the already weak hull corners a big, easy target. The Pz IV is identical except some players haven’t yet realized that upper hull section is merely 30mm.
angling a boxy tank and angling a curvy tank have nothing in common.