Pz4H should be at 4.3 to 4.7

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Exactly

Angling a Pz IV is analogous to angling an M4A1.

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No, it is not.

It is. You angle it, you make the already weak hull corners a big, easy target. The Pz IV is identical except some players haven’t yet realized that upper hull section is merely 30mm.

angling a boxy tank and angling a curvy tank have nothing in common.

The Chi-He or Chi-To Late hulls are boxy and yet you should not angle either without hard cover. The hull shoulders become easy targets.

they’re angled more than on the Pz.IV. That’s another garbage analogy.

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This is against M61 shot at 500m.

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side armor OP

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Mate. Just stop. You’ve already blatantly ignored the facts I presented earlier about the sides of the Pz. IV being too angled for the tank itself to be angled effectively, but I’ll put it here again:

The tank itself can only be angled at 12° before the sponson plates start to be less effective than the front plate. Once the tank is angled at 20°, the sponson plates become susceptible to most rank I vehicles. 30° and it becomes susceptible to all rank I vehicles that haven’t been removed. 40° and it’s on the brink of being able to penetrated by the Ha-Go.

You might be able to get away from 20° against newbies, but by 30° the side is a larger target than the front. 12° is the absolute best angle to maintain it, but that only increases the effective thickness of the upper frontal plate to a staggering 81-86 mm.

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It’s not my fault that you don’t know how to angle.

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Did you try reading

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I have the tank spaded

Oh damn guess we all must assume you’re right then since you spaded a rank 2

I certainly trust my own experience over a random noob Germany main complaining on the forums.

Good thing wiggly is both better than you at the game and knows more about it then

I highly doubt that taken as he don’t know the first thing about playing squared german tanks.

he describes how he does here:

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He just sits in place and lets enemies shoot him.