Python 4 for F-16D and F-16I

I’m not the one who’s desperate buddy, now go on and and make your absurd claims on different thread, you already dreailded enough.

What?

The one thing you are right on though, this is getting off-topic.

Back on topic, there’s no reason to add the Python 4 yet

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By the way Barak2C can use AMRAAMs and Derby, it’s already proven.

Only Barak that can’t use Derby is the D model.

As far as I was made aware only Block 30s could, and we have Block 40s in game.

You can try to grasp as much as you want and I couldn’t care less.

Like it or not contenders are better.

Anyway back to the topic my friend.

Block-40s can use AMRAAMs without any issue, what makes you think better version cannot use the same armament while having better avionic suits?

Because that’s not how blocks work.

AFAIK the SUFA is the only F-16 in Israel’s inventory that uses AMRAAMs. Maybe my info is out of date, but I’d love to see proof of Block 40s with AMRAAMs if you have it on hand.

Any Gen 5 missile could be added now then by that route. Then of course we get the community complaining about how unfair it is that their missile is being “held back”. Its happened before, like when the Magic 2 was added before its IRCCM.

Really, there’s no reason to go down that route when the current loadouts are more than enough for the current enemies it faces

You can already check the bug report about it.

Starting from Block 15 all F-16’s can utilize AMRAAMS without any issue, this includes Block-40 as well.

If you have it please link it. Otherwise I’m not gonna search for it.

Sure let me check the bug report site.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Zufx2ywqZF2I

https://www.f-16.net/f-16_versions_article7.html

…I never said that that criteria was the only thing that mattered, thanks for putting words in my mouth.

I play top tier too, thanks again. I know what radar missiles are and the fact that they are the top dog, as well.

Let me rephrase what i said i guess. The 9M or LI’s biggest advantage, kinematics, is its only real advantage compared to other IRCCM missiles in the game. While the type of irccm could be considered an advantage in certain situations, it can also be a disadvantage in others. So seeker shut off and gatewidth are essentially sidegrades of eachother depending on playstyle and situation.

In terms of Max G overload, nearly all other IRCCM missiles beat it along with general maneuverability. And that will be a killer in close up knife fights that do occur in top tier. Yeah, the range is nice, but why bother lob a 9M from 5km away when you can lob an AMRAAM or a Derby or any ARH missile since its most likely more effective.

This is not trying to say the AIM-9M is a crappy missile that you’d rather take the 9J over, this is just to say that in the current iteration of the game the AIM-9M is not terribly competitive and that the 9M’s later variants should be considered in order to make it tennable in top tier.

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The moderator answer isn’t clear on whether its actually a hard limitation, or they simply weren’t used on the F-16D’s

“Not a Bug”

I cannot verify sources when none are available to external viewers. (Aside from a book that I’m not going to buy and read through just for a forum discussion – and that has no screenshots posted.)

Also yes I am aware the upgraded Block 40s can use AMRAAMs. The issue is whether Israeli Block 40s could/do use AMRAAMs. Again, from what I was made aware, the SUFA is the only F-16 in Israeli service that uses AMRAAMs. Whether that’s because Block 40s have the capability and they just choose to use them as bombers or if they are actually unequipped to use them is not known to me.

Block number does not necessitate AMRAAM compatibility. Recall that the F-16A ADF is a Block 15. So is the Belgian F-16AM MLU. This does not mean every single Block 15, 20, and so on could use AMRAAMs. The majority of F-16s had to be upgraded to use them, including Block 40s.

Also there’s this bug report as well
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/HgxI7cJleCiR

I’m not sure how this is “Fixed” when the F-16C Block 40 Barak II still has AMRAAMs, but whatever.

I guess it’s because they added Derbies to the F-16C? But they still should remove the AMRAAMs.

F16c has agm65d and 2 gbu the israeli does not

And?

D Model should not be able to carry even derby missile, this is for C model.

And u dont complain about the american f16 cas monopol

Capabilities retained on Block-40 C model, as far as I’m aware D model is the only one that has to rely on Python-4’s.