Python 4 for F-16D and F-16I

Better seekers for rear-aspect, closer range

AIM-9M has better seeker for side-aspects, longer ranges

Two different situations, aim-9M excels in one, where the others are weaker, and visa versa

Actually about the same range, motor’s are almost identical. Fins do deflect a bit more, but in the situations where shutoff IR excels, the difference is very small practically speaking, you use them in the same situations.

Yes, same-ish seeker as the R-73, which only comes into countermeasure resistance at closer ranges. So the longer range is also its downside when it comes to IRCCM

Not in tight df and even if it is so what
It hurts u so much to see israel getting something good?

Its not gonna be op with nerfed irccm thats what matters

Tree already has great stuff, hasn’t hurt anyone yet

False both missile has similiar capabilities when it comes to side aspect shot if enemy doesn’t know how to flare it properly.

Another false, AAM-3 has less drag than Aim-9M which allows to achieve better range under same launching conditions.

At rear aspect it’s much better than Aim-9M, once it’s fired from that angle target will die no matter how much he tries to flare it.

Not gonna even talk about massive range differences.

So again what were you saying.

No. Because right now, the AIM-9M is the best missile for side aspect shots, specifically because of it’s IRCCM method. This comes with the drawback of being limited in envelope.

Asking for Python 4 with 9M IRCCM removes that drawback, making it a better missile, and at least in the devs eyes currently, better than they want.

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Not much like other nations
And its not historical

While the AIM-9M isnt a bad missile per se, its not a good missile especially in dog fights or in close encounters where the R-73, Magic 2, etc, perform exponentially better than it. Sure the 9M or LI are better at 4 or 5 km out, but thats the only real advantage.

For Israel, sure the python 4 could be added, and it would solve the problem of the meh IR missile, but balancing the python 4 might prove to be difficult. Compared to other IR missiles its much newer, has a better seeker, and longer range (other than the obvious ET) than the other missiles.

However another elephant in the room is that America, britian, Germany, etc are stuck with the 9M or LI, as no missile could be added that can be effectively balanced w/o adding a whole new gen of missiles or overhauling jet IR signatures and Countermeasures and Missile seekers and IRCCM.

Its a difficult issue to circumnavigate…

Looks like you forgot the AAM-3.

It’s basically AIM-9M but better.

Then gatewidth irccm

As long as they ahistorically get a monopoly on F-16s with inboard GPS munitions, yes.

Cope and seethe.

I already addressed that.

What do you mean by that?

Drag coefficient multiplier (this is not the only value affecting drag, just because it’s higher than another missile’s doesn’t mean it actually has higher drag

Still AAM-3 has better range and harder pull, it doesn’t matter what causes it.

???
U mean gbu 39?

F-16C should be able to carry JDAMs or potentially SDBs on the inboard pylons. Currently only the Israeli F-16s can do this for “some reason”

Again, you use them in the same situations where the minor differences don’t make much practical benefit

Dogfights aren’t the only situation that “matter”

The current radar missile meta actually discourages dogfighting

It does, AAM-3 allows more sharper launch conditions than Aim-9M, not to mention NC has bing extra range also helps.

In return F-16C gets triple rack AGM65D which to my knowledge it should be limited to 2 on per launcher.

So should we get AGM65-D’s on Barack family as well?

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