Python 4 for F-16D and F-16I

??? The performance of the R-74M at flight is the same as that of the R-73. What has changed is the seeker, and it is not me who says so, but the manufacturer itself, which states that the R-74M is a modernised version of the R-73. I do not understant , The difference in flight capacity will only be achieved in the R-74M2. I recommend that you and the Devs confirm the information about armament, because what is being debated here is something that cuts across NATO countries. Do you really believe that the R-73 is comparable to the Aim-9M, and then you send a cod into the air as if the R-74M were different from the R-73 in flight? Funny.

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Currently as it is, the F-16I is just an extra 400k RP before getting to the best attacker in the Israeli tree, the F-15I. It serves no purpose other than that.

For air RB, both the F-16C and F-16D are better and for GRB it only offers a marginal advantage over those with the SPICE-250 while still being inferior to the F-15I. (like seriously, Litening II for the Sufa??? Come on)

If it got the LITENING V or if this report got accepted allowing for 16 SPICE-250s, the Sufa may become viable Community Bug Reporting System

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i use the c10 in ground rb
and will continue to use untill they add the lavi

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This where 60 gs from

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Only equivalent to python 4 as stated by skin1080 is r74m

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Whatever you uploaded failed

Also source for the other pics?

Fixed I think

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Roe website for performance and Ukraine arsenal company for seekerhead

Link?

Also 60G seems to be referring to dual plane and I don’t know if the R-73 has constant dual plane

R73 or r74? R73 stats is just that brochure, lemme get the links to the others

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To the R74 thingy

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Here is of Ukrainian brochure for seekerhead

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Here is r74m website

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Why should Russia and Israel be the only countries to get better ir missiles?

dont know about the russian part but israel’s point been said here numerous times

Russia doesn’t need it, but the reasons for the Sufa have been discussed multiple times in this thread.

It’s currently sitting at 14.0 and is immensely underpowered compared to everything else at the BR and honestly worse than a large portion of existing 13.7s. That’s why it would need a new more powerful IR missile. Other nations have their unique advantages. The SU-30 is an insane spam machine, the MICA with or without the Rafale is crazy good compared to all the other ARHs, all the nations with Eurofighter have that comically overpowered UFOmobile, etc. See my other posts for why an IR missile with IRCCM adapted to be comparable to existing additions isn’t broken.

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I agree but the problem is that gaijin adds nations equivalents when they add a new generation of misssiles. Irccm fox 2s, all aspect fox 2s, modern fox 3s also follow this trend. The problem is that there’s only 2 nations that have a missile of similar capabilities, Russia and Israel. Therefore, it would be unfair to only give better missiles to only those 2 nations, and therefore they’re going to wait until either next gen ir misiles where everyone will have parity or they just not add them at all

and then we have the matchbet, which has been the israeli top tier aa up untill 3 months ago while russia been using the pantsir
and even then the spyder is missing so many features and the missiles cant even fly straight it is practically just a 3d model of the spyder while russians get an even stronger aa

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Ground balancing has little to do with air balancing

you are missing the point, we are quite past fairness

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The only time Israel has been above average, even strong in air was with the 1 week of F-15I where it had the good thrust, the Ayit before BR changes and the Netz upon recieving pythons, before the BR increase.

Case in point being that Israel has never had the ‘OP’ missiles of france or russia, or the ‘OP’ flight performance of a gripen/j-10, and that having a single missile, on a single jet (after the long awaited addition of SPICE too) would be a pleasant surprise for all the campaigning we do on the forums and bug reporting threads to remain a competitive nation!

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The Python 4 does not really stack up to full-bore next generation IIR missiles. That would be the Python 5. Once again due to this, the proposal is to nerf the IRCCM to match existing types in the game the same way PL8B/5E2/AAM-3 have been. In this implementation yes it would happen to be the best IR missile in the game, but still reside in the current generation. In the same manner that there is ALWAYS a definitive best weapon in each category, that’s just an inevitability. And again, IR missiles are just not that powerful in a fox3 environment, so it will be the least impactful “best weapon of its category”.

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