Hello, i just wann start a discussion or want a good explenation why the Puma IFV from germany is on 11.0 but the BMPT is on 10.3 same with the 2S38. In my oppinon are those vehicels way better then the Puma in every aspect.
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Bmpt is not a light tank, why people keep comparing them? Did Gaijin announced that they will be changing BMPT class from tank destroyer to light tank?
But still same for the 2S38 and even as a tank destroyer why is it on 10.3? I just wanna know i cant explain it to myself
Neither is namer with its 60+ ton mass. But for one vehicle gaijin gave td class and ammo box and for another - scouting and uav. Even though they do exact same thing in battle without those abilities.
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BMPT obv should be 11.0.
BMP-2M has 1 2A42, 4 kornets and no armour at 10.3.
BMPT has 2 2A42, 4 konkurs and armour better than anything at 10.3.
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BMP has APFSDS, while BMPT has only APDS, though. But still, insane armor and survivability for 10.3.
If it could get APFSDS, it would be even 11.7 material, IMO.
even 12.0 eventully but yes
BMPT have atakas
Armor. Puma can tank a lot. Sometimes, If the Snail is with u.
Can it tank more than the BMPT tho?
Well i meet some of that invicibil BMPTs. My DM23 dosn’t mind about that Armor. Not impressed.
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So Puma is 0.7 BR higher. Lets see why.
Puma:
2 Spikes, reload, then another 2 spike missiles. More pen but top down attack is not modeled in game and you can’t control the missile.
One 30mm cannon, slow firerate, 40mm more penetration with apfsds. If shot in turret, gun is taken out but crew survives.
APS laser dazzler but not helpful as you must be looking in the direction of the missile.
ERA on the sides but only protects from HEAT. Engine block cannot stop APFSDS.
BMPT-72: (BMPT is very similar)
4 ATGM, reload, then another 4 ATGM. Can control missile and rapid fire all at the same time.
Armor protection of a MBT with spall liners and excellent ERA. Will stop APFSDS on 80% of the tank.
Mobility is slightly less than puma but both still faster than MBT.
Shoot gun turret and only one gun is taken out if you shoot the belt. Most of the turret is empty space and disabling electronics will not prevent terminator from shooting. Belt is also considered external so crew will survive and can shoot back with the other gun.
Two 30 mm autocanons with faster firerate.
Secondary gun can kill light vehicles better.
BMPT has 5 crew members so more survivable.
Ok actually there seems to be a problem here…
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what a braindead attempt at defending BMPT.
its only a couple tons more than an ajax and is used exactly how a light tank is.
It also blatantly overpowered, it should be 12.0 easily
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4 Shoots. 4 Pops. Soo.
no one says its Indestructible but its still better then the puma amored
4 shots 4 pops, T90M to 10.3 now please
(Also why the f does windows crank up the brightness when im taking a screenshot)
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Type classification is irrelevant, Battle Ratings are what matter.
Vehicles at a given BR should ideally have roughly equivalent performance, regardless if one is a light tank and the other a tank destroyer.
PUMA is the most fragile IFV in the game. It has so many components when hit with even a 20mm will immobilize the entire vehicle.
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I Like the Wiesel too.