Proposed ground **Vehicles** RB battle rating changes

More toxicity, very nice.

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Also, the turret drives, which you so kindly let out, T58 one is a bit incorrect, it’s 40° at ace, unless it was changed.

Regardless, more gun depression, and double the Turret horizontal traverse and a 2.6 sec load time means you can react to literally anything.

So exactly what you came here and did?

The guy who consistently wants Russian vehicles nerfed… but sees no problem with a very broken T58?

Where have I insulted him? Please provide an example. I have merely stated that he isn’t very proficient in his English, and he claims to be an English professor. He brought it up, not I.

He literally said “mate”

And has proven to not be proficient. I can word it many different ways, but it all remains the same factual truth his English is not as good as he assumes it to be.

You can call it as you like as I said before but, it is not an insult, you only take it as such as you have no ammunition in a counter argument.

Nice ToS breach, telling people not to reply, based on your opinion. You’re the ones being disingenuous, look in the mirror, and take a long glance, anyone whom decides to re read this all will quite literally see your false hoods.

Unlike most people, I’m not privy to one nation, I try to expose the inaccuracies, and balance problem, just like I had with the Fox :)

At this point I believe @moderators need to step in.

I can handle a disagreement but I don’t believe any of us should have to sit here and be insulted because we disagree with ones opinion.

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Sitting insulting any and all who have chosen to disagree with you is also a far clearer breach of ToS.

Rules apply to you too.

Mate is used in English, it’s in both the cambridge dictionary as well as the oxford dictionary.
It’s an informal way of refering to a person / friend.

What part of my English is not up to par?
One typo, and a piece of information you couldn’t understand yet has been broken down for you.
As well as this you have time and time again proven you have a written English level from around B1-B2.

You actively can’t word it in many different ways as there isn’t anything to say.

Notice if I had been making errors or flaws that are incorrect others would of pointed them out, or in fact you would of, however you can’t.

Lastly to say this, I am not writing a formal essay just to sate your need to feel some form of competition or competence in a language.
I am a native speaker of English, I have my qualifications from cambridge to teach it.
I have my position here as a profesor en titular.

I do not need your validation on my level of English.

Not while you have made numerous mistakes already especially while trying to critique my English.

Sentences are not started with “and” that is primary level grammar.

Said insults have been explained to you, multiple times, by mutiple people.

Your use of naive contextually was insulting to me as it is insuating I have a lower understanding/ knowledge of the game, especially the wording turned it into a slant as if somehow made me inferior to your opinion.

Then you claim it wasn’t an insult. Which in turn brought about my mention of being a teacher of the very language you’re miss using with such confidence.

Need we continue this malarkey ?

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Native English teacher education from cambridge just so we can clarify It’s not my second language, Spanish would technically be my second language now.

Thank you for breaking that down though as it still holds to the point of his insulting of me was uncalled for as well as unnecessary

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Ah the moderation, just like you called them the last time for the Fox thread?

The funniest thing, is instead of having actual counter points to anything, you merely have mob mentality for a vehicle you bought.
Then you go on screaming “he’s being mean” when I really haven’t, but just reiterated the facts.

You continually press the opinion the T58 doesn’t have the power to be 9.0, while being better than everyone of its peers in nearly every way.

Worst part is, I actually used to like your arguments, and whatnot, but now I’m a bit on the fence.

Lastly, we all are a bit naive: “describes someone or something characterized by a lack of experience, wisdom, or sophisticated judgment, often resulting in innocence, simplicity, or credulity”.
Again it’s not an insult, I too am naive about some Air vehicle systems and weapons.

Pretty insane take 🤦

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Right? I agree, how do people not think it shouldn’t be 9.0

2.6s reload, amazing shell selection, tanky armour (and it’s BS volumetric), stupidly gold turret traverse for a heavy.

Yeah it’s easily 8.7/9.0 material

A vehicle I have bought?

At one point have I stated I have bought a T58.

You have insulted more than once, for no other reason than disagreeing with your subjective opinion.

It’s not about being mean, it’s about having a small amount of respect for fellow forum users, which apparently is something which alludes you.

You haven’t reiterated facts either.

As has been stated to you, multiple times, by a plethora of people as to why the T58 can’t survive at 9.0

Like my arguments?
Also you’re on the fence because of what reason? Because I challanged your unnecessary insulting of me ?

It quite literally is an insult in the context you have you used it in to try and undermine my points as well as paint me out to be less knowledgeable or less intelligent for not agreeing with you.

It’s an insult

That is not debatable, stop trying to cover up your own insults.
Unless you never meant it as an insult which means you’ve used the word incorrectly.

Not really:
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I’ve said repeatedly it should be 8.7

9.0 is just too high for it.

I think I’m done here, he’s not going to actually address what has been said, he shall instead just repeat the same statements he has for the past 2 days.

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I’m not arguing over whether an insult applies to facts or not.
Naive can quite literally mean “without experience” but take it as you will. The world is yours old chum.

It’s really odd if you’ve come to defend the T58, yet do not own it.

T58
Pros:
Rangefinder

  • 2.6 sec reload, unparalleled by anything else
  • 6 round first stage ammo/ with quick loading if you keep one shell loaded.
  • Very good armor, often being rather trolly for most 8.3s and a lot of 8.7s.
  • 36°/s turret traverse
  • HEAT with 400mm pen and 3.73 KG HE
  • HESH with 200mm pen and 16.57~ KG HE
  • Roof mounted AA gun
  • Quick acceleration to its top speed
  • Very special inside, often needing 3+ penetrating hits to be destroyed.

Cons:

  • slow reverse
  • no stabilizer

Are these your stats for the Master of the game? What happened to being able to hop into any tank and or vehicle and get so many kills and a win?

It is from StatShark, You can see 234109 games played and how on average people do in it.

It is not that good, or we are going to argue that things like:
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Are far better

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You would argue that black was white mate.

You’ve used a word in a way to disparage me and insult me, it’s in writing further up.
You’ve insulted my teaching capabilty without knowing me.

Whilst simultaneously proving you have a lower understanding of the language with repeated grammatical errors.

This is disingenious and you know it.

You’re acting as if you don’t know the list of other cons we have given

  • no form of solid shot AP , apds, or APFSDS.
  • M103 hull is weak even for 7.7 and lacks massively at 9.0
  • no composites
  • no thermals
  • no laser rangefinder
  • turrer armour is negligible at 9.0 due to seeing darts with more pen than it has armour.

All of those cons prevent it sitting at 9.0

Like the majority have stated , 8.7 is would suit it well.

His list of “cons” shows he will purposefully ignore provided information to support his claim.

The tank is good, it could be 8.7 happily and that would be it.

The absolute desire to make it 9.0 is beyond me.

If someone belives that vehicle with no stab, no good solid shot, no laser rangefinder and on top of that no thermals, no good mobility should be 9.0 then he is delusional

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