Any other tanks to update on this list?
still bad change
Still bad without decompression
Bad take, reload kills this.
No need for such a massive uptier
No sense, its not better than the others.
ATGM vehicles are not strong. No sense.
Not good enough for 9.0, decompression needed
Makes no sense, lacks tech and weapons to be used at this BR. I-TOW can’t even penetrate kontakt 1 iirc which is half of what you face
Didnt see a downtier for any abrams so no
No need
No need, atgm vehicles aren’t good
no need
no need
ATGM vehicles aren’t good 3x
No need
No need
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M26 should be 6.3 instead(should not face 7.7 stuff)
jumbo 76 6.0(rival tiger E)
Tiger II P 6.3(quite literally a worse armor Tiger II H frontally)
M247 down 8.7(if the PGZ09 can be 8.3 then this can go 8.7)
T26E5 should not be 7.0
T30 should not be 7.3
T29 shouldnt face 8.3 stuff
Just uptier Pgz, AAs in this BR range are stupidly strong anyway
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Can you try to be amicable for once?
Yes I agree the atgm carrier post nerf are all bad, every single one. But I downtiered one and you copy pasted what you said, because you aren’t brining valid ideas to the table.
Beglit is far stronger than you let on.
Funny how the abrams needs a downtier, and you made that a stark point. WHY does an abrams need a downtier? They’re good tanks.
I agree. Did you know the M247 can kill a lot of mbts frontally through optics?
I don’t see what you’re talking about.
Could you have thought I just misread?
It’s not. Lacks tracking for anti air, AP rounds are mediocre against ground targets, I-TOW is ineffective at 10.0 as it is.
thats usually rng and require to be close range, side shot arent quite good either unless its NATO tanks except russian mbts
and all has to be close range
I was able to kill a KPZ-70 at 1300 meters…
bro YOU killed
i DIDNT KILL
YOUR KILL doesnt always mean its 100% going to be like that
The begel has very good angled armor that can bounce many different rounds and do funky things, same with the tam.
The begel has proxy, and a high damage 57MM with good pen.
It has a back up ATGMs and great mobility.
This is true, but a skilled shot with the SAP round and it’s HE filled to his optic over pressured the whole KPZ-70
those things arent very armored tho so
its more like a light mbts
I can do the same to a Leo 2, abrams, T-72, etc.
I think the chally is the only immune one from what I remember.
M1A1 11.3 → 11.7 OR Ariete 11.7 → 11.3
M1A1 is actually better than the Ariete, but ignoring that for the sake of argument, they should be the same BR
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anything that has like more than 38mm side usually resist it
if M1A1 is 11.7 it needs more accurate armor
The M1A1 with the initial armor package (same as M1IP) is pretty much accurate AFAIK.
Sure M1A1 Click-Bait is 11.7 but that is also undertiered because it’s a premium and can’t be 12.0
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I disagree
You telling me with an extra 2.2222222x times
more composite only add 50mm more ke
protection?
Your right ariete should go down. I mean tbf that’s the same with a lot of the upper tier Italian tanks.