The only interesting nation and tank not in game is the Korean republic. Guess who just bought a ton of Korean hardware…Poland so what subtree does Poland become (German? because of the 2PL)
Or does Poland get its own tech tree…Like Germany mixed with Warsaw pact and Western vehicles?
-1, Germany has no need for either of these nations, and to answer the points:
The idea of Germanys’ top tier losing uniqueness is not just an issue germany has, its an issue for almost all nations in the game, the US has it with its F-16/F-15, Britain, italy and Germany all have it with the Tornado, hell half of the nations in the game have the Apache as their best heli, several of which are superior to the US one. This is what you get when you export vehicles. I would also like to add that by adding a Tech tree it removes uniqueness from other trees as well
Again, this is not exclusive to Germany, the UK tree spent over a year with their best aircraft being the Harrier GR.7, Sweden was stuck with the JA-37D before they got the Gripen, Germany has had competitive and arguably Meta aircraft for most of the games history, plus the addition of a Prototype Eurofighter with the worse RB-199 engines instead would completely remove one of the main arguments you have for the tree
Again germany is not alone in having bad SPAA, the US and Britain have to use a system that doubles as a tank destroyer, meaning their Spawn costs are way higher due to it being classed as a tank destroyer, Israel (and until recently Japan) don’t even have a top tier SPAA system and has to make do with systems that are completely obsolete compared to other nations, and finally Italy has a system so absolutely horrific yet just .3 below the FlakRakRad, even though it deserves to be way lower and is worse than most 10.3 SPAA systems as well.
The gap from 6.7 to 7.7 is in line with completely Historical events, I hate to break it to you but late 1940s Germany (when the vehicles in this area would be built) was too busy rebuilding their nation to build many vehicles this is reflected in several other nations as well, the US jumps from 6.7 to 7.7, the UK has barely enough vehicles to make lineups between 5.3 and 7.7 (more than half of the vehicles in this range being TDs), Japan jumps from 6.7 to at least 7.3, This continues for China, Italy and Sweden at similar BR ranges
Either that or the swedes, if only due to precedent.
Czechoslovakia + Poland as one TT with Ukraine as sub TT
I like that idea
Czechoslovakia have a lots of interesting domestic vehicles that we made. The only “major” C+P would be for groudn in WW2 era and start of cold war as we start to modified T-55. For air it would cold war jets to the moder (dont know if we modified them somehow) but still air would have a unique light striker aircraft L-39s, L-159s
Thanks for the feedback! However, I never said that adding subtrees to Germany should be something immediate or should take priority over other more demanding issues. I only said that it should be done in the future, since as time goes on, Germany will become less and less relevant while nations like Sweden are better in every single way, using the same exact Leopards, while having their own subtrees.
People think Germany is comparable to the US or the USSR in modern times, “the big three”, but this is simply far from the truth after the second world war.
Poland or Czechoslovakia are looking like they could be our next TT.
Are you forgetting the Polish Firefly and boat in the UK tree or P-47 in the US tree for Poland.
I’d say there is far more than just one. You just need to know where to look. (WW2 and maybe 50s/60s over current equipment. Also prototypes and licensed built stuff)
Well…IRL they are…not the ussr tanks…but this is Gaijin magic
Something that people who hear about Easter EU nation as a new TT dont do. Hell one interesting point for Czechoslovakia. In out TT for WW2, we would have there a mosquito. You would think that it would be a C+P, but no, we change the British guns for the German guns and mofied it to carry German bombs also
Right I’m going to be honest Sweden should be the exception, not the Norm, Sweden has had a lot of favouritism in ground when it comes to vehicles, but I would like to remind you, the Leopard is one of (if not the best) NATO tank in game, especially now with the 2A7V, and germany can get many more of them between the 2A4 and 2A8 demonstrator in performance, a better option is to be asking Gaijin to add several new Domestic Leopards equal in performance to other nations.
and Germany does have a lot of vehicles compared to other nations, just because they arent in game doesn’t mean they don’t exist, whilst the current forums may not have that many suggestions for german vehicles, the Old forums had almost 4,000 For Germany alone, including many Vehicles from the GDR that haven’t made it into game yet
Sweden has had a lot of favouritism in ground when it comes to vehicles
To be fair for Strv 122s…i think what people forgets about, they dont have any other MBTs, unlike Germany, they did not made like 8 different versions of one tank
Polish Firefly was an early premium. The P-47 the same the first competitive vehicle Poland had added to the game went to Germany.
They did the same with the MAIM, every OZ vehicle was in the British tech tree and the M1 was given to the US and they did it again with C1A4 Canadian Leopard 1 was added to the German tree.
I’m not here to hash over where things should have gone and how Gaijin could have done things differently (Commonwealth tech tree combined with Britain would have been great)
Historically if a nation doesn’t have its own tech tree for a vehicle. If Poland’s new IFV is added to the game it would now go in the German tech tree.
Strange conglomerate of nations, I’d rather see Ukrainian vehicles continue their lines in the Soviet tree shouldn’t have to recrew and train the same vehicles, Poland and Czechs could be in one tree.
I wasn’t just referring to the STV 122s though, just in general Gaijin seems to give more liberty to Swedish vehicles than other nations(Looking at you T-80U)
It’s something people don’t due period for lots of nations. I’m a pro tech tree for the dominions and people hyper-focus on 8.0 and above rather than 6.7 and below.
Or hyper-focus on MBTs and ignore the domestic stuff that isn’t a MBT that is more of a staple of the nation over the MBTs it uses.
Exactly the 2A7 is in the top 2/3 tanks in the game out of 10 top tier tanks! You really wont get much sympathy with this line.
There’s nothing wrong with Sweden having Leopard 2s. I just think if everyone gets the same Leopard 2s, then Germany needs something else to make it more unique, and not just be a worse Sweden like it has been for a while.
There’s a major chance Italy will get Leopard 2a7s soon.
Ohh yeah, i agree that T-80U was jsut BS addition. Im sure there were better options for squad vehicles. But that comes to Gaijin and their adding more C+P vehicles then original vehicles