Proposal to Enhance the German Tech Tree in War Thunder with Austrian and Swiss Sub-Trees and Unique Vehicles

I’m not trying to be rude. It is just makes no sense when people say the USA is not the worse meaning it should not get anything cool

No one is saying it shouldn’t get anything cool :)

From my point of view I want every nation to be competitive and not just the few favoured by Gaijin. The US still have so many good vehicles to be added

I agree with you. The reason I mostly ask for USA things and why they don’t have it is because I consider myself decently educated what tanks/jets/anything the USA has. I don’t like to spread misinformation. That is why I don’t talk about other nations as much.

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Fun fact holding “W” is a strategy with the Abram’s IRL. it was made so we could go fast with its armor protecting from the front. Not saying that relates to gameplay but it is kinda funny imo

Leopard 2A4-CAN confirmed as a German premium. Great work Gaijin Germany sure needed it

Germany didnt have a 11.3 premium tank yet

Fact remains you now have Canadian vehicles in a tree that doesnt need them. Could have had a Spanish 2A6 as a premium or a Swiss one you have the Swiss hunter but no you get the 2A4-CAN when you have one Canadian vehicle in your whole tech tree. And no historical links to Canada.

Its a german Leopard 2A4 upgraded by the germans with a german armor package for the canadians. Germany has way more of a link to it than Great Britain. Especially they already have the Chally 2 OES

So why did Germany get the Swiss Hunter? Lets see your double standards get you out of this one.
I dont disagree the point remains Britain has tech tree and premium Canadian vehicles.

The CR2 OES is a copy and paste mess, that needs massive work (as its unplayable at those BRs) The fact Gaijin took the CR2 TES THE WORST CR2 in game and copied it stuck a 50. cal on it and sold it as a premium is shameful enough.
This would have been a perfect time for Gaijin to remove it and replace it with the 2A4-CAN. Now there is no way ever for Britain to have a competitive premium tank.

I said earlier Germany could have taken a 2A6 from Switzerland which would have tied in with Hunter they stole, and opened the pathway for the Swiss FA-18

They got the swiss Hunter because Gaijin wanted to fill a CAS hole ( which they should have filled with the Alphajet instead). Pretty much everyone agrees that the swiss Hunter should have gone to britain

Yet its in the German tree, still in the German tree.

It’s ok for Britain to have every other Canadian/Australian tank aircraft ingame until something cool that Gaijin can sell comes along and it gets farmed out to the big 3.

C2A1, M1 AIM and now the 2A4M-CAN you wonder why British players are fed up.

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i am against most sub-tree

I am willing to accept the Finlander in the Swedish, I am also willing to accept the Hungarian in the Italian. and I am willing to accept the Thai in the Japanese

but that is it.
France does not need BeNeLux and BeNeLux does not need to be a sub-tree, it has way enough material and unique material to be a tech tree on its own.

Switzerland also has a large number of vehicles on its own. for both aircraft and ground forces. on the ground alone, I identified 110 vehicles of which 95 are unique to them. and Austria are a natural subtree for Switzerland to fill the gap and fit their history.

Germany has way more vehicles than is needed already. adding Switzerland and Austria would not enhance the tree, it would saturate it. Switzerland has enough material to fill 4 lines well crowded. Austria can make 2 lines. how many research lines does Germany need to be competitive? 10? at this point, I would just say to delete the national system and let people play whatever they want.

besides, from 1918 to the present, Switzerland has been working closely with the French to develop its armament. the only exception was the Mowag Tornado and Pirat and the Panzer 87. The Panzer 58, 61, and 68 used French tech and incorporated many parts from the AMX 30.

adding Austria and Switzerland to Germany sound more like an idea from greedy bias boys than a rational one to me

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it‘s mainly about air rank 6+. Germany has only 2 Eurofighters, 1 tornado and the f4f Ice left.

Tell me why germany doesnt deserve a subtree there if france gets a subtree there despite having more planes than germany rank 6+?

It‘s a double standard by the community that for some reason germany despite clearly lacking jets doesnt deserve one.

Switzerland had tons of german equipment aswell. Hungary has tons of soviet vehicles and are now in italy

With france getting benelux that doesnt matter anymore. They already have not one but 2 countries as subtrees.

i do not think France and UK deserve a sub-tree either, both are fine with what they have and what they have to offer. there is no double standard.

and with the few planes they have left for the top tier, they have quit enough. there is also the F-35A who are coming up. they will probably have their first when Gaijin will be ready to add them in the game.

by ton you mean the Panzer 87?

maybe you forget they also have a lot more British, french and American equipment

hetzer, bf109 aswell and more

yet britain has a subtree and france gets one aswell. Cant change that fact.

yeah no. Considering other nations have much more options while having aleady more planes see france even without an subtree

despite its not only top tier its rank 6 and above aka only 4 planes left for 7.7 and above. that‘s probably 7.7 to 13.0 soon

nobody wants the BeNeLux to France. neither the French community or the BeNeLux community. i do not know who thought it was a good idea but I would have fire him to believe it would be one.

France does not need to have Leopards tanks to be good. it need to have Gaijin to create the new models and add new tanks that are completely French. but someone just wanted to take a shortcut apparently and give France tanks that are almost complete copy-paste and anger at the same time the French community and the BeNeLux community instant of doing a proper implementation of the BeNeLux at their own tech tree and give France the 2-3 vehicles they need to fill the ranks.

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