Why?
Money from Wehraboo
They have Gneisenau and Prinz Eugen.
At least let the Queen of the Frozen North be tech tree with her sister.
? i balanced there brs based on there vehicle performance KD wise that order is correct the reason there are some large gaps between 8.3s is cause some of them are more op than others like SOUTH DAKOTA and NORTH CAROLINA are way better than roma or richieleu and bismarck is in between cause shes got like the 5th highest kd shes in the middle hence why i put her at 8.7
10 ships are 8.3 ingame
They are there cause they don’t die from barbet fires and Bismark do, if underwater hits will work properly, Bismarck will be on the first place due to its faster reload. Fix it and overall BB balance will be much healthier.
btw. Vanguard is on the first place in RB by K/D, so what we need to put him higher, no, considering that in Arcade its lower than Bismark, so Bis deserves BR up? Nagato is top in Arcade so what, we need to put him too? BR changes is not the answer, bugfixes and ability of the ships do proper damage is.
well i put vanguard at 9.0 just after the very op south dakota and north carolina
Why don’t you put it on 9.7 if it’s “better” than south dakota and north carolina in “statistics”?
its not i mis spoke i meant before not after last time i check stats for br of 8.3
it was
north carolina 8.25 Kills per death
southdakota 7.15 kills per death
vanguards at 5.85 kills per death
nagato 4.63 kills per death
bismarck 4.46 kills per death
richieleu 3.46 kills per death
roma 2.55 kills per death
the north carolina and dakota have insane KDs right now cause there basically mini iowas hence why there 9.3 they have a 2.0 kill gap between them and next highest ship hence why there OP similar to how soyuz has a 2.0 kill gap between it and iowa
hence this is my reasoning behind each br i didnt do duplicate ships like roma italia cause im lazy
you could probably fiddle with the brs more and increase top end bracket more and decompress all the way down to cruisers im just to lazy to write all that
but the idea as is that ships within similar KD brackets like bismarck and nagato are .3-.7 higher than next highest KD ship like richileu making it spread a bit more this would increase downtiers and uptiers but they would much more fair as now you dont have SOUTH DAKOTA against like a 7.3 bb like kongo or scarnhorst
In RB on bots.
When in Arcade where player vs player is much more often, it’s just 0.5 and in June Iowa was 1.0 above Soyz.
So your conclusions is clearly wrong.
You kinda trying to buff pretty mediocre ship just cause you fan of it.
Kako is an oddity at her BR, but a very clumsy one. Can’t say I’ve ever thought it should be nerfed either playing with or against.
York though, there’s already three 8 gun cruisers at 5.7 which are hardly tearing up trees. Suspect very few people research the foldered ones. Sticking York in there would be pointless. Eight inch at 5.3 sounds great, but you can’t hit a barn door with her. Thought she was pretty average really.
Soyuz is a bad joke. No point firing at them as you simply can’t take them out. If there’s a pixel somewhere that works, I’ve never found it.
Rodney is quite tanky, just doesn’t do any damage. Think the fuze time might be to blame. I swear the 6" gives more dpm than the 16" a lot of the time. Feels like she’s been massaged to not threaten other BBs too much.
Westfalen certainly seems too strong for her tier.
The BR bump is the reason; her armor scheme is enough to make it borderline impossible for most DDs to kill her and as a result of the bump, she gains some firerate and and accuracy.
Since I have so much playtime with the York; unlike her County class cousins, York doesn’t lose crew or sections in the way they do while having quite a few more ‘deadzones’ where hitting her does basically nothing.
Add in the fact she’s borderline impossible to mag detonate and more than capable of killing 6.0 cruisers with deceptive ease, the BR bump also prevents her from feeding on destroyers that literally can’t harm her.
Lol, even a slight angle on that and Iowa and Yamato can’t touch it.
In fact I tried just that for a lot of salvos with 16" AP the last game I played.
8" cruisers can kill other cruisers… That’s kinda what they’re for. Low crew count, squishy… She’s average, fine where she is.
It’s curiously nice to hear someone thinking a RN treaty cruiser is OP. :D
There is no immortal ships in game with current hull compartments mechanic. Fear is what protects Soyzes, when players stop fearing and start focusing him, he dies pretty quickly, like any other ship.
OP, no. Just absurdly strong and the best ship of her battle rating.
Mostly agree. Soyuz needs nerf. To use TNT as fillar and armor reduced to realistic values would fix it a bit.
And Yamato still needs a lot of survivability buffs. Those ships survived extreme levels of punnishments before they sunk.
I dont agree to making the belt armor 450 mm. That wouldnt be historicall. But Id add all those little less armored parts 12-25 mm armors of hulls and decks that dont seem to be modeled unlike iowa

Those two decks above main armor of 20 and 25 mm and 25 mm hull armor just dont seem to be modelled. Then all the turrets and chimney. And bottom armor aslo seem to be missing 22 mm (which seem to be reason why bombs that hit below there seem to do way more damage than they should ) 



And certainly massively buff section survivability. When ppl actually shoot at Yamato at long distance and dont one tap it. It just melts like candle from the hull survivability. Stuff like that never happend to me with Fuso, Kongo classes or Tosa. Those usually die of crew and if that was the case for Yamato too it would be great (i dont think i ever died of crew loss on Yamato - always ammo rack or hulls melted).
That was used as an example and not relative of what should be done as a buff.
arcade is just as empty
your wrong actually look at data please before talking for AB
positions shift a little due to arcade aiming
all Kills per death KDs
USS north carolina 5.30
NAGATO 5.25
SOUTHDAKOTA 4.76
JEAN BART 4.26
VANGUARD 3.57
BISMARCK 3.13
RICHILEU 2.46
Clemencau 2.43
ROMA 1.81
ITALIA 1.79
