Proof of LDIRCCM capability in IIR against Laser DIRCM

[Armen_Lozone]

germanium is a much lower MP than Silicon so that explains a lot. still doesnt talk much abt indium antimonide compounds, not to mention the later WITH anti laser coatings

[Lawrence777]

@ItsOnyy

This is something to consider as well, even a powerful laser needs time to burn, not just through the outer glass dome of the optical seeker but the seeker itself would have to be heated up to 500°C + in a matter of milliseconds, meaning that in a real life practical scenario there is just no enough time to physically damage the seeker.

Yeah the ldircm needs to be hella accurate on a hovering helicopter against a weird vectored in missile coming right at it. I would be very curious how the system can detect and propagate itself to actually keep up with the irist-slm’s velocity and maintain lock on the seeker eyes w the laser

[Armen_Lozone]

@MotorolaCRO

You fire 3-4 missiles at the first helicopter you see on the radar and you get a kill, no questions asked.

hmm
so…

You fire 3-4 missiles at the first ground target you see on the screen and you get a kill, no questions asked.

this sounds completely fine to you too right?

[ItsOnyy]

Yeah, I can imagine that being a valid concern. Even then, it shouldn’t even matter because home-on-jam and IOG+DL would take over the IIR guidance. There is no scenario where the seeker is accurately and perfectly tracked by the jammer to cause any real damage. But let’s say it does in-game, then we are left with IOG+DL guidance.

[Lawrence777]

Very true

[ItsOnyy]

Dude is an oxymoron, just block em :P

[MotorolaCRO]

@ItsOnyy

Yeah also the Mi-28/Apache/Z-10 can spam their volley of missiles at a SLM battery and kill it

It’s harder to find a radar vehicle than it is to just fire your missiles at the radar contact you get. Time is of the essence there.
Also, 70 SP vehicle trading kills with a 400+ SP one isn’t half bad either.

@ItsOnyy

so the SLM player has to choose between killing the helicopter or intercepting the missiles that are about to kill it.

There’s no choosing there.
If you focus on shooting down enemy missiles you’ll eventually run out of ammo and die regardless.

Also, SLM missiles are about 3x faster than JAGMs, LMURs and the company, so depending on the engagement distance it might be possible to shoot off your first 3-4 missiles, kill the helicopter and intercept some enemy missiles that are left in the air.

[Armen_Lozone]

JEEZ, look at what he says

oh i wonder what wavelength is used to suppress missiles with IR homing heads???

(^ president-S LDIRCM brochure)

[MotorolaCRO]

@Armen Lozone

this sounds completely fine to you too right?

Only one of them cost 70 SP.

[ItsOnyy]

Really splitting hairs with this one, does he not really realize that visible lasers like the ones on DEW take KILO and MEGAWATTS of power to be effective? Holy.

IT’S IN THE BROCHURE OF THE PRESIDENT-S LDIRCM

[Armen_Lozone]

only 1 of them has no defense to speak of
only 1 of them cant move in a 3d space
only 1 of them has access to a larger play area

[itango]

Iridium antimonide coating is fused to Si so the paper does include the details you were looking for.
Just obfuscated a bit by the manufacturing process of the coating.

[Armen_Lozone]

@itango

Iridium antimonide

sorry did i write iridium before
i meant indium
and i couldnt fin any text matching indium nor antimonide in the paper

[MotorolaCRO]

Only one of them has the gameplay loop that an ape after a 15 minutes of training can hit the skill ceiling off. This is funny considering FnF helicopter gameplay isn’t that hard either.
You’re extremely delusional if you think that would be balanced on a 70 SP vehicle.

[БрИт4нСкUй_П0дС0С]

@Armen Lozone

as i have already stated, i am not a great CAS player. this doesnt throw any shade on the topic of this thread.

i didnt even have a lineup for the Tiger until recently lmao. i doubt you forgot that i havent played it very much

Then what are the complaints about my words?

@БрИт4нСкUй_П0дС0С

It would sound better if the person saying it understood at least a little bit how to play helicopters.

@Armen Lozone

statshaming. what a crook you are

Britian player, I’m like 99% toxic. Play with any stat bro, fun > stat. It’s just funny to hear “just play smarter”, “skill level is too low” when a person doesn’t understand helicopter gameplay at all.

People don’t like the current one-sided and unfair situation with ir spaa vs ldircm, but they are absolutely fine with the same one-sided and unfair situation with ir spaa vs non-ldircm. Just play smarter lol. I don’t like such hypocrisy.

[Armen_Lozone]

@MotorolaCRO

Only one of them has the gameplay loop that an ape after a 15 minutes of training can hit the skill ceiling off.

i assume positioning/relocation frequency and map knowledge and radar emission control means nothing in this game right?

[MotorolaCRO]

@БрИт4нСкUй_П0дС0С

People don’t like the current one-sided and unfair situation with ir spaa vs ldircm, but they are absolutely fine with the same one-sided and unfair situation with ir spaa vs non-ldircm.

Yes, it’s almost 2026 and people still don’t realize CAS vs AA is really tough to balance properly and in most cases one will dominate.

[Beeschurger]

I see MotorolaCRO still doing his GGG strat - girlboss, gaslight, gatekeep

[Armen_Lozone]

@БрИт4нСкUй_П0дС0С

Then what are the complaints about my words?

1. off topic
2. useless
3. attempt to criticise the argument, not by criticising the argument but the presenter of the argument

@БрИт4нСкUй_П0дС0С

Britian player, I’m like 99% toxic.

eh at least ur self aware
props to u

@БрИт4нСкUй_П0дС0С

understand helicopter gameplay

i think i understand a sufficient amount as compared to the games i have played with the ONLY real helicopter Germany has. i doubt youd take the Bo-105 to 11.0+

@БрИт4нСкUй_П0дС0С

but they are absolutely fine with the same one-sided and unfair situation with ir spaa vs non-ldircm.

speaking for myself, i am not. helis like UHT do not deserve to be at the same BR as helis with LDIRCM and new age IR AGMs.

[itango]

If it’s 1 AA vs 1 air unit positioning matters far less than it needs to. Compared to tank vs tank, AA vs CAS is a cakewalk in mechanics.

Some factions can spawn in and delete the sky while still in spawn protection.