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Do you know what SARH means? Semi-active radar seeker

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Semi Active Radar Homing missiles have a Radar seeker too

just a Passive one, you could say It’s just a reciever that seeks for radar pulses

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SARH missiles don’t have a independent radar unlike ARH missiles, they use the radar of the aircraft to detect reflections.

It is quite literally just a receiver, it doesn’t search for aircrafts independently so it’s not really a radar seeker and hard emphasise on the seeker part.

It only does half the job which is receiving reflections which is were the part “semi” comes from I’d assume.

Does an IR seeker actively emits it’s own EM waves or simply receives + interprets the energy from the target itself?

Well, I have to say that I am not surprised. Britain has the worst top tier premium plane (F-4 Junk) so Gaijin solution is to add another bad premium plane, while the solution was the Tornado (RSAF for example), there is no more iconic modern British aircraft than Tornado.

But Gaijin said no, it’s Britain, you’ll get more crap. There are never enough premium Mig-21s in the game, we’ll add more.

if it isn’t a seeker how would you call it?

Never said it wasn’t a seeker, all I said was it lacks half of the procedures to make it a proper radar (lacks a transmitter but has a receiver). If you want to class it as anything it would be a parasitic radar or like I said earlier just a receiver. It’s up for interpretation on what you want to call it but it’s not for sure a complete radar.

This is getting off topic anyways, went from me quoting a CM to us talking about radar class

If the MiG-21-93 could fit it I don’t see why the MiG-21 Bison shouldn’t get it, one is developed from the other and they use the same countermeasure pods (I think idk). If the F-5C was allowed to get its ahistorical countermeasures then the Bison should get its semi historical 120 countermeasures.

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I agree. However, this is Gaijin and they will pick and choose what suits them.

I’ve tried my darnedest to zoom into Mig-21 Bison pictures and see the countermeasures, and all I see is just white paint :<

Currently MiG-21 Bison’s Kopyo-21 radar gets the same range as Su-39’s Kopyo-25 radar, which is incorrect.

MiG-21 Bison: Kopyo-21 excessive detection range:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/eVG5PDBEpSfY

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When x 4 R77?

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This loadout is not planned as it would result in a BR increase for the aircraft. Right now, it is more comfortable at its existing BR.

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I don’t see why that should affect the plane if there are similar planes like the Av8 with slower active missiles and active missile capabilities.

They kill the essence of the plane because precisely this plane was expected to have active missiles
Lastly, I suggest a way in which, depending on the weaponry, it accommodates you in different BR greetings.

AV-8B is a subsonic platform with AMRAAMS are 13.0

MiG-21Bison is a supersonic platform with HMD also at 12.3. It would most defiantly not remain at this BR if it were to receive R-77s.

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I was waiting for my favorite plane years ago with R77 up to MAT AWG, the youtuber was waiting for it in the game, a shame, thanks for responding.

I have a doubt then what is going to happen with all these third and second generation aircrafts that have fourth generation armament like the Mig 21 UPG

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are they going to take out half of their armament just because they are lower category aircrafts? or are they going to make a future range with this type of aircrafts?

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I do not understand the logic of putting an airplane that was designed for BVR combat and not putting its main armament on it for “balance”

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MiG-21Bison is a supersonic platform with HMD also at 12.3. It would most defiantly not remain at this BR if it were to receive R-77s

Most people and if not all are already aware of this, whenever people ask for the RVV-AE for the SU-39 or MiG-21 Bison they’re already aware of the BR increase this would warrant.

The MiG-21 Bison at 13.0 would be a entirely fine thing and especially when the missile mounted on the platform is a aging MiG-21 with a limited amount of pylons - not to mention the JA 37 which just got introduced as a premium with AIM-120s.

MiG-21Bison is a supersonic platform with HMD

A 10km HMS with god awful locking difficulties and not to mention the massive nerf the Kopyo-21 received this update - nothing noteworthy.

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