But why not just work on it right now and get it out the way clearly the people want their to be two f14D in the tech tree
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After three years, USS Salem has yet to be added as a tech tree version of premium ship Des Moines and event ship Newport News before it…
So hopefully a tech tree F-14D with its real armament doesn’t take as long, though given both would be fairly easy to implement I’m not very confident in whoever’s in charge of deciding what vehicles to add :/
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I’m working on a suggestion/project for more Skyraiders. Just waiting on a few FOIA’s to come back before proceeding further. Should be an end all be all for them. I’ve got over 30 primary sources rn lined up with page numbers listed for each part and source and I’ve got more stuff on the way. Overkill is best kill :D
Edit: I wanna do a similar thing for the Dragonfly and a few other aircraft. Just takes a lot of time. Thankfully I can use this kind of thing for my dissertation worst case scenario.
Edit 2: If I could get Boeing to help me with a Douglas part number that would also help move things along…
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You mean it could happen if enough dirt is kicked up or sales are stale enough.
I can tolerate the premium price as it can be solved with money, but I at least want a complete F-14D, not an unfinished product. It doesn’t matter if it’s more powerful than the tech tree, even if it’s 13.3.
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The problem is they eat their words from mid to end of last year’s Dev Q&A, where they said they will not have a premium be the best version in game. Already are but they are trying to pretend they are not.
Making the final model of something a premium is probably the most foolish thing they could have done and they thought just making the armaments par of the B wouldn’t be an issue.
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http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-cp-d-pilot-02.htm
This is HUD MFD and ejection seat that are correctly.
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Yep love how most of the time it’s Russian items get the pass but items like this do not.
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There’s an obvious reason for this.
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Well people did ask for it. I like to think the majority said it would be a dumb idea and not work but alas I think that might be the opposite. Now we had wasted manpower on this useless mode that plays awful.
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By that logic, the F16CM, F15E, F15C GE, EF AESA, SU30SM2, F15JM, J10C, J15T, Rafale M, and the Gripen E were all pointless additions that should have been premiums. But hey, all those upgrades were just extra “things” on the wings ;D
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people did ask for Inf I asked for 10 years
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I already posted some reports of F-14s or AIM-54s with NAVAIR manuals and smt but, they are just lazy to fix.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/dNDEDPs3VxUd
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/JJEkUSIRqYYX
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hTyfJU29QHKH
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/oV40xnBcOyQe
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/buIYXizvc3bA
I mostly use NAVAIR manual or textbook that uses in tomcat squadron, official documents from Grumman or navy.
If you think they have a more reliable source of information than those, that’s a ridiculous delusion.
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Yeah they want written statement from the engineer at this point with both classified and unclassified until its russian then they will even a printed paper is enough. Nato = marketing lie .
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Basically at this point I feel like I given enough info for f14D w/aim120 to be at least consider and added at 13.3 till rank 8 gets decompression
or the F-14A with the 120 it tested as a squadron Vic
No because I’m pretty sure it didn’t have the full tech unlike the f14D to use aim120A I’m pretty sure it was only supposed to test if the f14 airframe could carry and launch the amraam for the f14C/D since not even the B was available at the time AMRAAMs project existed since the (but the C never existed or the f14 would had a asea radar) 1976 and the apg 71 was supposed to be next gen it was supposed to carry everything the navy had to offer in its inventory because the fact of it turning into a digital capability gave it more options till funding cuts happened but unlike other weapons the f14D end getting everything it needed to use aim120A but its software update
Ok, i hear it,
but the same goes for R-27 for example (and other missiles as well ) but they gave it the 35G overload of the dual plane maneuvering anyway.
If anything the AIM-7F/M getting rolled comes from the innability of the missile to get diagonal easily , so it can’t change direction effectively on a single plane to take the diagonal fast enough. So yes if you perform it right , you’ll roll the 7. And even if it may be a bit “overshown” in game , mostly because the planes are more agile as well (pulling stractual Gs , instead of pilot Gs) … but it is a good show of what single plane means and what it loses.
Now in the example, a single plane R-27 would pull 25G , like AIM-7 and it would miss the same(or similar) shots AIM-7 would most likely.
But you gave it 35 anyway , even if the dual plane doesn’t exactly work…and it has let’s say worse performance than 35G dual plane , but hell a lot better than 25G single plane.
Why at least till you figure out the dual plane (which it may needs time, it’s acceptable) , you don’t give 54s 25 single?
It would still be worse than 25 dual…
Dual gives better energy retention , no blind spots in target approach (like getting rolled) , and as a value 25G in dual is more like 30+ in single…
(yes if dual comes in in general forget escaping the dual palne missiles) .
On the other hand for AIM-4G you give a statcard of 27G, in game is more like 11-12…
Kinda pick-ish approach if you ask me.
And really, even if you give them the dual plane in single plane (like R-27 does - and it does) , still will be weaker than the same value in dual plane , because dual plane on its own gives you 1/4 of the written performance more , just by the other features it has .
It is wrong, but it is more close to realistic than just limit the missiles potential.
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We have more info the F14D can use aim120A than the f14A-65-gr can
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