That’s what I was thinking. If the mobility AND firepower are both destroyed and you’re outside a cap point and there’s no teammates around to repair, then you get booted.
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idk, maybe they could have it be power systems, comms, and ammo racks that can kill it. there should be opportunity to wait for a friend to come rescue you
I doubt the ammo rack would result in a kill, however electronics as stand-ins for crewmembers would make sense.
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That turret is smaller and shorter than the autocannon turret, the turret crew would have to sit lower taking up that autocannon ammo space.
maybe there could be a modification for a soldier with Javelin and maybe .50 cal, so you can repair self but lose the conventional turret
There’s also a few actually in-service vehicles that would fit well around 8.7
M551A1 TTS:
Adds thermals, LRF, and MGM-51C
M60A3 (P):
Basic M60A3 model without TTS, ERA, or M774, basically trading RISE’s ERA for LRF
LAV-25:
Armoured car with a Bushmaster. Kinda a bigger, slower RCV but with thermals. There are also later upgrades.
LAV-AT:
LAV-25 but with M901 turret. Bigger, faster M901 with more ammo. There are also later upgrades.
M2A1 Bradley:
First upgrade of the IFV Bradley, gets access to BGM-71D TOW-2. But it only has about half as much ammo because of troops. There are also later upgrades.
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looks more like its either a one man turret (commander is also gunner) or comically cramped from photos I can find of the rustpile that’s left, you can shove at least two more in there easy.
@Pangolin_Fan the Ripsaw MS2 or MS3 could also work well as a lower BR version. it would be an interesting alternative to scout drones for later US IFV’s and maybe even battle tanks as well
Sure there might be space for a few missile but the gunner would basically be sitting on them and I doubt there’s an actual rack. Nevermind the fact that they would barely fit through the hatches. Even if it was possible, thats still only 4 missiles
almost like this is a testbed of a potential light gun tank with a missile turret. like the MILAN fox, and its not uncommon for small vehicles to have crew pretty much sitting on ammunition, even on mbts like challenger the loaders seat is pretty much just a charge bin.
For reference the MILAN fox was able to carry an additional 4 missiles and that’s a smaller vehicle
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MS2 Ripsaw also used Javelin turret. seems like future is bright for light US ATGM vehicles
Exactly, so its unreasonable to say that it should be at 9.3
you missed my point
in relation to only TOW or more likely I TOW
as for BR placement
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9.0 makes more sense.
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fair argument. a whole BR higher than the m901 sounds more righteous of a placing to me considering its superior mobility and versatility.
The M901 turret allows it to peak without exposing the hull and it gets multiple reloads and you think the XM800 tow launcher should be a full 1.0 higher just because its faster
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but is it really a whole BR worth of that though?
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have you ever test driven the M901? you will understand just from how long it takes for the missile to be ready after a stop
outside of pretty rare situations where you’re camping one spot for a long time this is a useless feature
its not just faster, its the fastest tracked vehicle in game by a significant amount, easily keeping up with fox which is gold standard for this genre of vehicle, in urban areas its faster than any wheeled vehicle because of the turn radius too.
a whole BR higher makes sense for the speed and versatility from the mobility and small stature
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Its speed doesnt matter at all, it needs to stay exposed the whole time the missile is traveling and while thats happening a single shot from a .50 can kill one of its 2 crew. Firing ATGMs from behind cover is a much bigger advantage than you make it out to be
These actually look very good. I never knew about an M551 with LRF.