Poor poor poor little MiG-29 (9-13)

Yeah I agree. There is no good solution right now, giving its historical loadout will make it go up.

We desperately need BR decompression. There are many jets that are getting the shorter end of the stick because of it.

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yep, only reason i mentioned the copying the MiG-29G loadout to the other MiG-29s is that its a quick and easy patchwork solution that only affects one aircraft directly, which is gaijins preferred way of doing things now. so it seemed like the most realistic thing that they would do if they remembered that MiG-29 is in the game.

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outrun for how long? You won’t be able to run away for long enough

they are objectively better

the MiG-29 fm is underperforming massively, you lose a dogfight to most enemies you face without them trying

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even the F-18C Early has a better flight model than the MiG-29

The MiG-29 (9-12 and 9-13) should never have gotten R-27ERs and should have kept the R-73.
currently these planes are completely irrelevant at 12.7 air RB

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To rearm and then come back. With your R-27ERs you will force the other player to low altitude, if he doesnt die straight up to the 1st or 2nd missile you still have the advantage of initiating a dogfight with a more advantageous positioning. With a bit of luck even F-16s can be handled.

Massively is a stretch. Might be underperforming a bit in engine thrust and/or having less energy retention in unsustained turns. Because the sustained turn rate seems to be about right, the AoA also seems about right or overperforming a bit if anything, you can pull 50deg AoA in turn, more if you induce spin with the rudder (±65deg IIRC).

Against skilled opponents, the Mig-29 FM is an average dogfighter, slightly better than the F-14 and on par or maybe better than the mirage 2k. But worse than the F-18, yak141, F-16 in that order.

Yes for a dogfight, but as a mig29 you can easily extend from an F-18. Their sparrows or aim9Ls pose no threat to you in rear aspect/low altitude. You can safely disengage, unlike against a mirage 2k that might have a magic 2.

Wdym? that’s clearly a MIG-25, where is the hype for the new Japanese jet???

patrick-bateman-silly-me

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aim9m isn’t worse than the r73 you cannot avoid the aim9m if launched in the correct envelope, you can always flare the r73, that being said the r73 is the best dogfighting missile in the game but the aim9m definitely has a super irrcm. On the r27r, it’s yet again probably the best dogfighting sahr but has terrible acceleration and range, the aim7p is superior and should be added to more airframes

Mica exists as well, not at that br boulder I would say that it might be a better DF missile

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mica is a arh not sarh

And the r73 is neither ARH or sarh

I was saying that the mica is probably the best dogfighting missile in the game

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yeah overall in the game mica is definitely best dogfighting missile due to its seekerhead.
But best dogfighting missile relative to its br is the sraam, that thing is so undertiered after the fix.

Not really. If you launch at hobs it will lose track or spin itself. They are incredible finicky if you dont launch in optimal consitions

that’s all tvc missiles

The only way you cant reliability avoid the aim9m is at side aspect in ranges where the enemy doesn’t have time to turn into or away from the missile and flare it.

The r73 is almost guaranteedly unavoidable at short ranges and mainly rear aspect. That being said I have flared multiple very short range rear aspect magic 2s in a row with an F16A by cutting throttle, neg G and flare a bit. The F16 has a single engine and flares downwards. Other jets and flare patterns will be different, or not possible at all.

Pre flaring works for both, having missile radar slaved mitigates that for both but you need to pay attention to where the IR seeker is looking at the moment you launch

Yes but the sraam will probably go dumb if you hobs it. It is very unreliable at short ranges if the missile does hard manouvers off the rail

I’ve found it only absolutely unavoidable if launched sub like .45ish km any aspect even with preflaring in testing in customs and duels against hot 2 engines targets like eurofighter
Single engine planes might still be able to flare it at those ranges

Yeah essentially. But since I did flare a bunch of magic 2s that are even harder to flare because they get closer to you faster then the r73. I need to say that it is possible.

A F1C was following my tail in literally rear aspect and launched 2 at me at about 1km away while I was running straight level. I was doing it on purpose because I wanted to test if it was possible because I saw it somewhere in YT. For the F16 it is possible if you neg G and flare

Not entirely sure, I havent actually played with it, but from flying against it, I’ve noticed it really only spins out if launched sub 500km/h