after 10k hours I will with full and complete confidence tell you the r60m is less likely to avoid flares from any aspect and I’d argue it’s literally only better than the aim9l for .5 mile headon yolo shots
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until they killed the mig29 you could easily dogfight f16s as long as you didn’t play into his cards by rating, since then it’s pretty much just a worse su27 lol
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cool, and once those missiles are gone what do you do?
every other western plane has more SARHs at the same br, along with more IR missiles that are actually good for the br bracket.
Last I checked R-60s were pretty bad for 12.7
MiG-29 is only strong early game, once those missiles are gone your only choice it to play as a shitty ratfighter praying on unaware and really bad enemies.
Especially considering the underperforming flight model
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The 9Ls are indeed more flare resistant. Although both are easily flared unless at extremely short ranges.
I just prefer the r60m because of the acceleration and pull.
The 9L playstyle also means that they have more time react to the missile.
In other words, you are saying that the mig29 would win if the f16 pilot doesn’t know what he was doing.
Nah… The f16 was always dominant against it in a gunfight.
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I mean now f16 wins in both one and 2 circle lol
At least when it had its pseudo glimiter it would lose in a one circle
at this point unless gaijin are planning on decompressing BRs more i just want them to give all MiG-29s that are currently 12.7 the MiG-29G loadout and make them 13.0 with the current max br of 14.3. and as for the german migs they could folder the G variant under the normal DDR version.
And if we had just one higher BR level of 14.7 we could have moved up the current 13.0s to 13.3 and place the 12.7 mig 29s at 13.0 with R-27R+R-73
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Kill people with guns? I mean if you are alone and the remaining enemies are all F-16 you’d better run and rearm. But it’s not like the Mig-29 doesn’t have a capable FM to gun down people with, you don’t need to be an F-16 to achieve gun kills at 12.7
Those SARHs are very subpar compared to the R-27ER. If the mig29 had a aim9L exact equivalent it would not have R-27ER at the same BR. R-60M are still useful in the right hands and its rare that I don’t get a kill or two when I spend all of them. Which is about my average PK ratio with 9Ls too because of how unreliable it is to get long range IR kills even on distracted enemies that are constantly firing off missiles and randomly flaring in a 16v16 environment.
I’m tired of watching biased people saying R-60M are dead weight and aim9L are great by comparison. Yes they are arguably better than 60Ms but the 9Ls are not better in every way. If the F-16A could carry R-60Ms I would bring 3 of each, or just an all R-60M loadout if I want to play aggressively in the furball.
Rearm if you think you can’t carry the game with your gun. Problem solved. No plane will catch you anyway since the mig29 outruns everything
Do you want to bring most 13.0 to 12.7 and compress the game even more?
no, thats not what i said
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Again you use that as an excuse? You are just stubborn and lacking in arguments
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You said you want the MiG-29 G to drop to 12.7, or copy its loadout to existing 12.7 MiG-29s.
For fairness, there would be about at least half of 13.0s dropping to 12.7, which would further mess up the matchmaker
In about every post here, I supported my view with reasonable arguments. Unlike you. Where are yours?
i said that i want the current 12.7 mig-29s to receive the same loadout as the MiG-29G and be moved to 13.0 not the opposite. And maybe folder the MiG-29G under the normal german MiG-29 if they make that change i mentioned above
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Oh sorry. Thats fair yes. Personally I don’t. I’d rather keep the Mig-29A at 12.7 where the chance to face fox3 is lower.
I might change my opinion when decompression happens, but for now it would just ruin them. The Mig29A is good for 12.7. The Mig-29G is mid for 13.0. Even though the G is much better than the A at just 0.3 above.
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Just proves my point. Is that meme supposed to help your arguments?
yeah no worries
its not really my most preferred way either to give the current mig 29s the R-73 but its the only way to make them be more than mid at 13.0 with how the BRs are set up right now and with how unwilling gaijin are to decompress the BRs
since many people have suggested giving it R-27R+R27T and R-73 only, it would be to strong for 12.7 and it would have to go it 13.0 but it would still be wayy to underpowered at 13.0 compared to MiG-29G, flankers and F-15A in the current BR system.
Thats why i suggested just giving it R-27ER+R27ET and R-73 to make it more like other 13.0s but its not really the best way either since BRs are compressed
in my ideal BR level changes:
Max br goes to 14.7 or 15.0
planes like the su-27, F-15A and MiG-29G goes to 13.3 from 13.0
MiG-29 loses R-27ER, and adds R-73 for loadout so its loadout would be R-27R/T + R73 and its BR is changes from 12.7 to 13.0
it being 13.0 with R-27R/T + R73 loadout aswell would put it at the same br as the IR IRCCM missile only F-16s
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I find it cute about saying that you valid arguments, being:
. Is capable in good hands
. Is the best 12.7
. complaining about F-16 and F-14
. overestimating its flight model
. Wanting to move 13.0 to 12.7 when you have nothing more to say… Twice (or more, since you post a lot defending the same “arguments”).
It is okay if you like, at the end is your POV but we do not have to agree with your “”“”“supposed valid arguments”“”"
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It is
Never said that. I said its one of the best. I place the yak141 and maybe the m2k above it
What’s the context? Complaining about the mig-29 is essentially all you did.
How did I overestimate? I’m quite acquainted with all 12.7 FMs including the Mig-29.
Are you making stuff up again?
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