Poor poor poor little MiG-29 (9-13)

blame gaijin

artificially? hell no.

There will never be any semblance of team balance without sbmm, and even then it will only be marginally better.

MM makes zero distinctions between a 4.0kd veteran and some guy that just bought the game and an f18.

Blame yourself for consistently asking for lower BRs for aircraft! When given the option between a higher BR for an aircraft, leading to decompression, or a lower one, leading to compression, you almost always choose the latter!

I wouldn’t blame myself because I don’t do this. You won’t be able to cite times I did either because you’re just… lying for clout?

Example 1: this thread. Given the option between 12.7 and 13.0, and explicitly saying the MiG-29 would

you chose 12.7.
Example 2: given the option of moving 12.0s up or F-4J(UK) down, you immediately jumped to the defense of the 11.7 option
Example 3: asking for the Kfir Canard to be 10.7.

You are very much part of the problem that is the War Thunder community consistently favouring compression BR changes over decompression ones. Take a moment to think about that. I’m sure you didn’t even realize.

No? I prefer decompression over all options otherwise, I just also have “realistic takes” where I have opinions that relate to how GAIJIN is likely to do things… If you actually knew anything about me you’d know I am one of the most staunch advocates for decompression on this game…

No, I didn’t. I’d also prefer decompression there and have said so in the past.

never did this, if anything I might have passively agreed with someone saying it again, under the constraints of what gaijin realistically is doing.

You’re a fool and nobody should be listening to you after this little rant…

Neither of these are me little bro 💀

I am referring to the rant in this thread, small child.

The threads linked are me… advocating for decompression…

Oh, so you agree the MiG-29s, with R-73 and no R-27Es, should be 13.0 and not 12.7? Well glad that’s cleared up!

You have the most basic, bare-minimum decompression takes but then turn around advocate for compression with a “woe is me there’s no other option Gaijin just does decompression” attitude.
You simply cannot claim to be a decompression advocate with your takes on BR changes without being a massive hypocrite.

Yes… in a DECOMPRESSED GAME.

Examples given are extremely weak. My comment on F-4JUk is not an advocation for a downtier to 11.7

kfir comment is taken with context of the CURRENT GAME and not decompressed, which is ENTIRELY separate in any reasonable person’s mind.

I have literally made spreadsheets. I’m done arguing with you.

Just as a passing comment for fun, you are both bad at the game and making reasonable articulate points on the forum. :)

As someone once said, “guy declares himself winner and defecates on the floor”

You entirely fail to see that compression and decompression happen step by step, not just wishing for 15.0 as a second option.
Congrats on your spreadsheets though, I guess.

Me when the missile that was designed for the plane in question isn’t added for it, and Gaijin instead adds a missile it never was supposed to have for it instead – thus creating a bigger issue than it would’ve ever had if they just gave it the missile it was supposed to have.

Then they go ahead and nerf the flight-model for it anyway because we can’t have it beating F-16s in a gun fight, because John_A10_Fan bombed his way to top tier in his F-4S and doesn’t understand the basics of dogfighting.

And when they finally give a variant of the plane it’s intended missile, it’s already been power-crept into oblivion and the airframe it is on is even worse than the 9-13 because of how fat it is.

Oh, and let’s make sure we put this one at 13.3 and give Germany a version at 13.0 that gets the R-73 and a better flight model because something something Germany suffers…

absolute-cinema-is-asymmetrical-so-i-flipped-it-v0-wlv2qyn32i4e1

How do you manage this?

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IMO We need 1 or 2 more BR space at 12.7/13.0 because it may be cracked if 12.7 MiGs gets R-73.

If that BR has some spaces, they can gets R-73s and can puts at those with some other aircrafts, such as M2K C-S5.

I would like to see some aircrafts more better loadouts like MiG-29s, F-16A Block 10/Block 15 ADF, MiG-21bison, JA37DI, F/A-18C Early etc but, not possible at current meta.

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It’s not exactly like this.
They could have another 9-12 instead of 9-13 , because the differences were the bigger fuel tank and the jammer which is not in the game anyway.
Then they could give 9-12S, which can have ER (and possibly R-77).
Then they could give MiG 29SMT and after it MiG 29M .
And the MiG 29 variants will be complete.
Or even…skip the SMT, make it event or squad or premium whatever.

But instead they chose not to fix R-27R , which back there was crap
…introduce R-27ER that it didn’t have, for balance purposes (it actually made balance worse) ,
not give R-73 which it had (not that the planes they introduced in the patch couldn’t bring AIM-9M as a counterpart, they would have to decompress and they didn’t want to…because they never want to)…
and then some patches after fix R-27R which slower but more maneuverable and has IOG vs 7F/M (so is equivalent - not the same).

They did all that instead of …decompress 1 stage, fix R-27R and give it R-73 and AIM-9M as a counterpart (while also they had Magic 2 in the game). If they were too strong , they could artificially nerf them for a patch or 2 (i don’t like it, they always do it though if they are not sure how it will go).
But i think it was mostly the cries about F-14 and AIM-54 that brought the 27ER , another the thing that could have avoided if they didn’t give AIM-54 on release and wait for the right time , without even the need to have them overnerfed.
The worst part is… they didn’t revert, they didn’t fix and they didn’t change anything afterwards.
The whole way of thinking is wrong. They try to fix one mistake by making another.

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Pre FM nerf yeah.

Nowadays?

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A Mig-29 with only 2 R-60s and nothing else would probably be overtiered at 11.3. Sure it’s fast, but only for 5 minutes if it starts with max fuel. Sure it’s maneuverable, but it’s not an entire 1.0 BRs better than a Mig-21bis while having a worse loadout.

The J-7E would unironically be better than a Mig-29 in that config. Even with 6 R-60s I couldn’t see it being higher than 11.7. And with R-27Rs and R-60s, it would be fine at 12.0.

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Bro wanted R-73 at 12.7 mig 29 against 9L F-16A at same BR
seriously? well i guess F-16A can get 9M and stay the same BR then

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it already has a missile that it wasnt seen with irl, the 9l

and the f-16a is 12.3 not 12.7 anymore

I think he means the F-16A ADF

It still slaps the living hell out of any 11.7/12.0 with ease. If a Mig-29 with 4x R-60M and 2x R-27ERs goes to 12.0 then the Tornado F3 needs to go down to 11.3. Simple as.

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