[POLL] The current state of events

Swin has spawned just a simple question does Gajin have any plans for new types of events or a event overhual if you can tell us?

Well, I’ve considered things and I think there’s something we both can agree upon and you have mentioned, and probably won’t be the last time and it’s certainly wasn’t the first. I don’t think that event vehicles will pivot to exclusively unique designs, experimental and or prototypes because part of the community will argue that the developers are requiring time management and effort in a short period of time. At the same time if the developers intent to balance in between as you mentioned, another part of the community, like myself, will argue that said event vehicles aren’t worth as event vehicles.

On my end I’ll just hope that the next one is something unique as a 152 mm boomstick like the Object 292 in terms of appearence—A main battle tank with 152 mm—or as I’ve mentioned previously with the UDES-XX 20 an articulated trailer and a small silhouette with a unmanned 120 mm cannon would also be very cool as an event vehicle. But regardless, putting my own issues aside, I don’t think that the Patria AMV (Bakhcha) will be bad, since, it has a 100 mm cannon that can shoot anti-tank guided missiles. I’m excited to see if APDS-FS is being considered as well, not only that but an improved loading mechanism for the anti-tank guided missile:

Make them fun with mini challenges like the battle pass instead of just mere score.

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it’s boring and they not worth one min of grinding them and copy past they want players to grind 750K mission score to get a coupon while back then it used to be 45k that’s just greedy.

back 2019 before we used to get even with 3 rewards and many stuff it’s this garbage.

they not even worth it and only worth event it is dream come true which take one year to come and have WWII tank / aircraft.

while they have thousands of suggestion they choose most boring ones and if you say it’s copy past they get upset.

bring back 3 rewards and make it only 45k for a coupon one modern tank and one WWII and no they should not make 3 or 4 events each year maybe two so they don’t run out of tanks and aircrafts.

The number of battles played in this vehicle suggests otherwise. If a vehicle only gets 300к battles during its first month (which is very low), that means there was very little demand for it. It’s quite unfortunate that you are giving the developers feedback claiming that this vehicle was well received.

It’s frustrating that the pilots were given a genuinely interesting reward that was worth paying attention to, while we got a wheeled vehicle with an autocannon that I have absolutely zero desire to grind for.

What’s even worse is that you gave us false hope by mentioning a tank.

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that’s so true i was very excited i saw a surprise then showed a bmp 3 with no diet as reward they could added this as tec tree nothing is special out that tank be even considered a event tank having bmp 3 turret in wheels make it special somehow??
months of waiting for this event and Sweden could have more cool rewards instead of this.

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We don’t currently no. Since the current type was the type adopted after the changes a few years ago and the one most people favoured over all previous event types.

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Nobody “got upset”. You were simply answered that the vehicle isn’t copy paste. Because factually it is not.

It seems later you realised this after it was pointed out to you and changed it to simply mean you call things copy paste if you don’t personally like them.

I would like if we could receive something more special like premium vehicles.

They could also add already existing vehicles but maybe with interesting skins, imagine if we had an event where we could get a Tiger 1 but its a premium and it looks like the “Two Fronts” Tiger Pack, with camo nets and all that. i think it would be cool :p or historical vehicles like Franz Stigler’s BF-109 or something like that, premium ofc but for gaijin that would be too much

Score required should be lowered, 45k is crazy, 35k is already high but we started to like it just because gaijin sometimes put 45k which is worse.

the score required should be below 30k i think. Events in a game shouldnt require +3 hours per day to complete

Again, this is not the only metric of how a vehicle is considered or not. You are again comparing different vehicle roles as your metric for judgement. As you even said earlier, an MBT is always going to achieve higher numbers, simply because they are the core of a line-up.

It does not no. That is your personal opinion.

Please do not make statements about things you don’t have the full details about.

The developers can see from themselves both directly in actual statistical values, metrics and factual data what is and what was not successful. They can also directly see from any feedback we pass via the links directly back to the topics and locations it was passed from the reactions, discussions and answers. It is not down to me or any CM to decide what is and what is not popular.

Again, you are projecting your personal views and opinions onto everyone else. Because you do not like something personally, does not mean everyone agrees with you. Or your methods for deciding what was and what was not successful, particularly when you have clear data bias and do not look at the facts wholly but from a perspective that favours your personal opinion only.

Pretty sure that it didnt have the BAKHCHA turrent at least on the trailer seems to have the 2k23 turret, the rounded one like on the bmp3 on the russian tt, on the trailer also had the original sight not the sodema as well

I think we are in a bit of a pickle, 2K23 Bakhcha is the same thing. Like in other vehicles 2K22 Tunguska, the anti-air system, 2S6 the chassis mounted on. Bakhcha-U is an modernized version of the 2K23 Bakhcha system that consist of the 100 mm low pressure cannon, 30 mm autocannon and the loading mechanism as well any other electronics tied directly to the turret system and fire control system. I suppose that it’s the 2K23 Bakhcha-U, the same turret system found in the BMD-4M2 that’s a modernization out of the BMP-3’s Bakhcha turret we have in-game.

If the developers put feedback shared on the Forums, having that in mind it just rest we to hope that the developers are planning on something positively surprising for the next ground event vehicle. We could at least for once this year have another highly experimental ground vehicle by late’s year Christmas event perhaps.

First time that i heard that the original turret was calleed bakhcha as well

Just as a reminder this is the bakhcha-u turret, neither the patria or the bmd4m2 uses it, which is the one found on the event bmd4 with the fast autoloader
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With this autoloader

The patria has the rounded one, the original turret, which could either have the automatic rammer and conveyor from the bmp3m or o just the tilting arm, keep in mind that the there is a total of 2 differnet loading methods for the bmp3 original turrets

This is the one that the tech tree bmp3 use

I think generally the events are fine. I 100% prefer the new events and event schedule to the old crafting events. I like the frequency because it makes it less frustrating when there is an event vehicle i don’t care about since there is always a new event in few weeks as opposed to the months long gaps back in the day. I do wish the score requirements were lowered a bit. Honestly 10k less would be much more doable IMO. One thing that I have always wanted was for all event vehicles to be premium. It would add more of a reason to play them out in matches over just collecting although im probably in the minority on that one. Idk… I know if you let the grind become your mindset that game loses its allure but whenever I play TT vehicles I’m reminded that i could be gaining double the SL if i just played a premium. All that aside it would just be a nice incentive for more people to grind out the events

i am not changing my answers English is not my main i type what i think off if my English helps.

how?
what’s new or special about it from other light tanks in game?
personal i think it’s only copy past it have no spacial round or machine to it.

it should been a tec tree light tank like the T72M1.

when gajin added object 292 it had best pen and 150mm gun and when LOSAT was added useless in small maps but still unique and this tank is also very unique tank and AGS with low profile.
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respectfully i really don’t understand why do i need to explain my views or feedback for community manger instead of viewing the feedback it’s normal for me as player to complain i thought am the customers here?
no other video game a dev tell me to explain only if my information is wrong and my i really don’t see something unique or supersizing* about this light tank.

my point of my complains is 750k mission score to much for a coupons and this tank is not unique having nothing special about it from other light tanks i thought the point of event tanks is rare cool prototype with different gun or unique or different system on it.

again this comment is feedback it’s no hate or attacking anyone i just want something worth the time like before and it’s personally opinion.

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If we all understand that MBTs are the main type of vehicle in battle, then explain why MBTs receive so little attention in events. Even if we remove the Scimitar and EFV from the list, the numbers still won’t favor MBTs. Why are there so few MBTs in events despite such high demand for them? This just shouldn’t be the case!

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So you define every new light tank to the game as a “copy paste” because the gameplay is the same?
Every new MBT as a “copy paste” because the gameplay is the same?

It seems a very strange way of defining things, because its not a “copy paste” at all, but an entirely new vehicle that combines the firepower of the tracked BMP with the Patria hull, among other modernisations.

You don’t need to explain your views. Constructive feedback is always welcome.

However when you make a false claim in an official topic as you did about something being “copy paste” when its not, then you can expect to be corrected on that so not to mislead others. As that is also my job, to provide the facts.

Calling something “copy paste” when its clearly not, doesn’t actually help in any way with what you don’t like about the vehicle. It doesn’t tell the developers what is wrong about this vehicle. It doesn’t tell anyone why you think it is, because you use an overused term that doesn’t even apply to this vehicle in this case.

So as mentioned above, you absolutely don’t need to elaborate if you don’t wish too. But calling something “copy paste” when factually its not and claiming its feedback sadly doesn’t work.

This isn’t the case at all. MBTs receive examples too, as you highlight in your image. Once you remove the Scimitar and EFV as you said, there is a difference of 1 between the two classes. (4 vs 5).

If you also take into account the years just before your selection, the skew was entirely the other way around. In 2022, there were no less than 3 MBTs alone in that year, the T-80UM2, Leopard 2AV and T-72M2 Moderna. Much of the feedback we had there was to offer other types more, and not as many MBTs.

We also have the majority of MBTs coming through to the tech tree for research. As again, these mostly make up the core of everyone’s line-ups. Events are focused on rarer vehicles or those that perhaps don’t fit in the tree so well, but complement line-ups or nations in some way.

Whenever we do run MBT events, another common critique is “this should have been in the tree”. So we have to strike a balance there.