Thats funny since you think India in Israel, despite not sharing any of the aforementioned, is less out of place than India in UK.
Because Israel and India have a close Military and Political relationship
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Maybe the first leaders but they still cared about India’s economic development
Most of their territory was in India and they assimilated with Indians.
Israel and India have such military treaty that if india is attacked israel will deploy its troops to india or vice versa?
Does India have that with the UK? No, what I’m saying is that they both have mutually close relationship and would make more sense than Britain because colonising a nation doesn’t entitle you to that nation’s vehicles.
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Once again, Israel is India’s second largest Military Partner behind Russia. Israel has come to India’s aid several times and was vital to their victory in several Indo-Pakistan wars.
The Blogs: Battles India fought with Israeli support | Arunansh B Goswami | The Times of Israel
How Israel helped India during the Kargil war - India Today
What is out of place is putting India in their Colonizer’s tech tree rather than with their actual Military Partner.
India will not be a Stand-Alone Tech Tree because nations like Japan and Israel are already strained for additions due to Gaijin stretching themselves thin. It would be more beneficial to the game to combine Israel and India as they use each other’s technology and are also, again, Military Partners.
I am not asking to have pre-indian independence vehicles added to Israel such as the Vickers; however, Indian vehicles during the wars where Israel played a key role in aiding India in their victory and beyond should be within Israel. It is healthier for the game.
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Again. Nearly no sub-tree in this game has this condition. Current Additions to Britain, such as Jordan, South Africa, and the few Indian Vehicles they have, would not fit this requirement.
If India were to end up in a war, it would be Israel that aids them, not Britain. Objectively speaking, this is not a guess. Not only has this happened several times in the past during Indo-Pakistan wars, but the inverse is also true as India is currently aiding Israel at this very moment.
It is impossible to deny that they are close allies based on Historical precedent.
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Cool story, doesn’t change the fact that India was still a part of the British Empire. Ireland is represented in the British tree, and we are independent from the Crown. God forbid India (who has historically been a part of the British Empire) be a part of… the tech tree that makes up their military history, moreso than a country that is barely legitimate in the first place.
India is in the British tech tree, and unless Gaijin feels like giving us British players those Indian tanks that we unlocked for free in the Indian tree, I say no deal. I got my Strela, my Osa, my MiG and the Curry T-90 by hard work in the British tree, I’m not unlocking it again.
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Naaah…
It wouldn’t happen at all.
even lower chance than UK becomes US’s subtree in the next update.
That argument could put half of Asia within Japan or even America and France within Britain.
Hell, it could put nearly every country within ITALY.
Simply being the Colonizer to get a sub-tree of another country is a MASSIVE slippery slope.
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India also used Israeli equipment extensively.
If we’re going by equipment exports to determine this, Israel is India’s second largest supplier behind Russia.
Neither would the US and many other countries. This is irrelevant.
I’m pretty sure you just said that “Rome” doesn’t count because they didn’t built tanks or jets, but that’s also true for this time line you’re using.
The point wasn’t for you to latch onto. It’s a Slippery Slope. Being a land’s colonizer does not give you rights to its Sub-Tree. What should give you rights to a sub-tree is significant military relations.
In the past, Britain was tied well to India, but over the last 80 years, this has drifted significantly in Russia and Israel’s favor. As Russia is not hurting for vehicles, it would be healthier for the game to add India within Israel.
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Considering how this game only ever nerfs Britain, I would rather abuse a few Indian tanks and planes in Britain. Although I’m surprised you haven’t mentioned India’s other supplier: France.
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Some British vehicles used by India
- Centurion
- Vickers MBT
- Tempest
- Hunter
- Gnat
- Sea Harrier
- Leander/Fiji Class Cruisers
- R/Hunt Class Destroyers
- Majestic/Centuar Class Aircraft Carriers
EXTENSIVE List of Israeli vehicles used by India:
- SPYDER SPAA
- Some Surveillance Drones
I’m just going to flat out going to say this
India should be an Independent TT period
India’s ties to Israel isn’t as strong as people say it is especially to some other nations Israel has relations with (Mainly Colombia, Chile and Azerbaijan) on top of that Israel didn’t contribute as much in weapon procurement and upgrade/MLU programs. Primarily due to India’s desire to be A: have a completely independent and self-sustaining defense industry and B: have a healthy export market for their own domestically built weapons. These two points are spurred on by what’s currently happening in Israel since it’s quite hard to sustain an export market when you are at war with all of your neighbours and the rest of the world is turning against you.
And no the UK isn’t a good choice either (excluding historical grievances for a moment), weapon procurement wise most of them are either weapons they inherit from the Raj or brought early on in the Current Indian state’s history. The Soviets contributed way more to weapon procurement to India than the UK ever did and I’d argue that France is a bigger procurer of weapons to India than either the UK or even Israel is more recently and I don’t hear French mains going like “InDiAn SuBtReE iN fReNcH TT cUz PoNdIcHeRry CoLoNy” only certain UK mains do that
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The problem of India tree, is that while even Israel tree itself is considered as failure by Gaijin to make a full independent tree, India has no chance of such, which even lacks more in ground top BR.
Maybe if it’s not 2021’s Gaijin but 2025’s Gaijin, then Israel would be end with USA’s sub tree.
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I don’t take what the senior mods or even gaijin’s statement in regards to subtrees seriously anymore since they consistently contradict themselves and not only that you cannot use whatever they say in a comment section for granted since Gaijin will have one stance one year and completely take the opposite stance the next year when demand calls for it. Back in the day Gaijin used to state that Supersonic will not be added to the game only for them to announce Supersonic aircraft
Subtrees can become Independent TT case in point Italy used to be a subtree of the German TT a long time back before becoming a full TT and people back then when you look at really old TT fixes and proposals were serious about adding way more Italian aircraft in the German TT. Same goes for France, they used to be a de-facto subtree of the British TT and there is serious proposals back then to add more French aircraft to the UK TT
Also I find you rebuttal very interesting especially coming from a Korean. Think of it as this way if Gaijin clandestinely added South Korea as a subtree of Japan or even China, only announcing it in comments and not in a proper devblog like they did to India you would feel very differently about it. Face it they only announce it in the comments not the devblog itself because A: if they announce it in the devblog proper they’ll face major backlash and B: most people don’t read comment sections and the Gaijin devblogs are no exception to this so they can more easily get away with it announcing it on a comment section of their devblog than on the new devblog itself
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So, the problem of independent India tree is simple. Can it get Rank VIII ground? No.
Well for SK itself, I wouldn’t mind it goes to USA subtree. For Japan and China, Gaijin didn’t have even plan about it so not worrying, and they don’t even have military connection of India-UK
Id rather just get Buffs for Britians Aircraft and Tanks instead of them throwing in some more soviet vehicles and then forgetting the British vehicles even exist.
Lets not give them an excuse to neglect us
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