If it is similar to the effect of missiles on airplanes, I support it. But the automatic advance guidance of Pantsir and Tor is very ineffective.
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BW’s own website straight up says they had (or still have) M3s:
So BW had/has Osa-AKMs, just without the IFF.
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8.3 to 9.3 is in INSANE difficulty jump for planes (and helis). I almost feel bad for slow korean war jets getting absolutely clobbered by Gepard-type AA. And getting a stinger sent at you in an early heli or bus like Buccaneer? Pack it up boys, party is over. Ozelot and co send their regards.
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Whole CAS/SPAA dance of death desperately needs to be reworked to something less ass-cancerous.
Get clapped by cas → Spawn SPAA → attempt to clap said spaa while having to remain a stationary target → maybe works, maybe doesn’t but that missile or bomb isn’t missing you. And it IS coming for you
On the topic of BW/NVA Osa:
They acquired 9M33M3 missiles between 1983 and 1985, but didn’t change the designation of their Osa’s from AK to AKM (9A33BM3 TELAR is only used by Osa-AKMs) for whatever reason (likely to avoid having to print and distribute new manuals).
All this points to NVA having had and BW having Osa-AKMs, they just call them Osa-AK.
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Great find! I did some research before and all I could find were some vague mentions of the upgrade program for the missile but nothing really this detailed and thorough. Thank you.
The ozelot is 9.7 which pretty much exclusively sees 10.7 uptiers.
I’ve literally never seen a 8.7 match in 9.7
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I still see a good amount of stingers in 8.7s and it can get really annoying
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It does happen, but its not the only one. Soviets have the upgraded Shilka and France has the Mistral. Japan has the Type 93 which is pretty scary.
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Facing a type 93 in an F84 is scaryyy
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The OSA-AK and OSA-AKM could both use 9M33M3 missiles. The difference was as follows (Google translation):
- The resolution of the target detection station’s circular view indicator in range and azimuth was improved by introducing an additional scale;
- by refining the computing device, a method for guiding the SAM with a significant angular lead of the missile from the target’s line of sight in the vertical plane was implemented, which reduced the probability of the radio fuse being triggered from the ground and reduced the impact of signal fluctuations in the missile channel on the guidance accuracy;
- the density of the fragment flow in the direction of the target was increased by forcibly issuing a command to detonate the warhead when the SAM approaches the target;
- a command was provided to the missile to correct the area of the radio fuse’s actuation in accordance with the area of the warhead fragments scattering when firing in pursuit.
The Osa-AKM SAM system, compared to previous modifications, had the ability to destroy hovering (and flying at speeds of up to 80 m/s) helicopters at practically zero altitude at ranges from 2 to 6.5 km with a course parameter of up to 6 km. Helicopters of the Huey Cobra type on the ground were destroyed with a probability of 0.07-0.12, flying at an altitude of 10 m - 0.12-0.55, hovering at an altitude of 10 m - 0.12-0.38.
Well, that’s cool. Germany’s Osa tho, was in all but name, an Osa-AKM (seeing as it has the 9M33BM3 tellar which is only used by the AKM modification).
Basically, an Osa-AKM, but without the Soviet IFF.
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I’d like the Soviet AKM to get the wire guided missile whenever ECM is implemented.
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That would be funny
I don’t think ACLOS would solve the Roland 3 having a smoke trail that is visible from the moon, a velocity slower than the F15’s maximum speed, a range that gets outranged against partial uptier helicopters (the only thing the Roland is useful for taking out anyway), and a guidance that will irrecoverably go off course with even considerably minute adjustments. ACLOS doesn’t change the guidability of a missile, it just does it for you. If your target is maneuvering in the slightest, ACLOS will still throw the missile off target.
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Missile flight model is the problem, as every missile seems to be modelled after HOT.
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Model’d after an oil tanker, they have the same reaction time.
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No, it is literally HOT.
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No, i take that back. Even HOT is not so Bad.
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5 missiles through the same hole is scary…
also an unknown concept to american and russian missiles lol
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I guess it has been 4 months since i was supposed to do it, i think, i might finally start working on missile flight reports
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