[POLL] MiG-29K 9-41R balancing

With the MiG-29K currently being placed at 13.7 after a bunch of changes such as the removal of 2x R-77s from its loadout and countermeasure count being corrected to 32 at the moment, and upcoming changes including a engine power nerf and losing its ability to use the R-27. And it being denied the R-77-1 for balancing reasons originally when it could carry 8 of the R-77/R-77-1 type missile.

I ask what would you like to see be changed on the MiG-29K to make it more competitive at its current or future BR. As in its current configuration it is outclassed in the 13.7 bracket by other jets.

  • Keep the MiG-29K at 13.7 and leave it as it is (6x R-77 + 2x R-73)
  • Move the MiG-29K to 13.3 and leave it as it is (6x R-77 + 2x R-73)
  • Keep the MiG-29K at 13.7 but add the R-77-1 (6x R-77-1 + 2x R-73)
  • Other, comment
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I vote for 13.7+R-77-1s as I don’t think it would be stronger than the 13.7 Flankers or F-15s.

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I’m for either 2 or 3 but picked 3.

to be fair, i think its better for it to be 13.3. from a point of view where the Mig29K 9.31 will be added in the future who is a brother to the Mig29M 9.15 with 8 R-77 at 13.7.

BUT

to a other point of view where Gaijin mess up with the Su27sm and su27sm3 to give us a R-77-1 plane at 13,7. i can see it at with 77-1 at 13.7

not to forget that now we will have Us player slop comming to complain and use it as excuse ( BUT IF IT GET IT, WE WANT 120C5 FOR THE F16CM AT 13.7 )

hard choices.

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there is no way the mig29k can be 13.3 even with only 6 of r-77, its nowhere near the mig29n in terms of effectiveness. I think it should get the 32 cm dispensers instead of 16 and stay at 13.7. Yes, it will be weaker than mig29m but not nearly to the extent of the 29n or smt

If it’s losing 27s, then 77-1 is required.

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I am voting for the R-77-1s but I think leaving it at 13.7 with those might be too much.
This trend of denying aircraft their actual service weapons to keep them at an artificially low BR is getting annoying, especially as even with them they would still not be close to top-tier.
It wasn’t an option but I also vote for “emergency power” to be added as a game feature for all aircraft that actually have it, rather than the inconsistent “some engines max thrust is emergency power others are not” that we currently have.

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Bring it to 13.3, might become too op, idk how i feel about 6x R-77-1 at 13.7, so
Instead what needs to be done is proper BR decompress from 10.0 to 14.7 which should fix balancing issue for many many jets

It didn’t happen before, zero reason to expect it right now.

Su-30 is already at 13.3, with more missiles, more countermeasures, ability to have CAS without sacrificing any missiles and (if engines on MiG-29K will be brought to realistic thrust values) better flight model

You might not understand that giving it all realistic loadouts and rising the br will only make it more unplayable with the current 32 countermeasures

The lack of CMs, and only having 6 R-77-1 will keep it in check. Especially if it’s getting the thrust nerfed too, and losing R-27; you would essentially be forcing it into VWR engagements only with minimal CMs. I think 13.7 would be fine as it trades enough of it’s capabilities away compared to other aircraft at the BR to have access to a longer range, higher performing missile. While still only having 6 of them in the end. Nothing too ground breaking.

And if it does overperform drastically, then the aircraft can simply have it’s BR adjusted to 14.0 – not a big deal. I will be in favour of a aircraft with unique weapons, compared to what would essentially be a drastically worse MiG-29M; and ultimately a significantly worse sidegrade to the SMT at a higher BR, mind you.

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In a recent issue feedback, they denied the ability of the MiG-29KR (9.41R 2014) to carry the R-77-1 on the grounds of insufficient data.
Does this indicate that they intend to place an aircraft that lacks both R-27 and R-77-1 in 13.7BR and further degrade its performance?
I think she is inferior to the MiG-29SMT with a 13.3BR, and she even can’t defeat the F-14 with a 12.7BR (in terms of BVR).

its gotta be 13.3 As IS or 13.7 with the R-77-1.
I could see 14.0 if they provide it an acceptable amount of countermeasures but imo we should wait for a MiG-29M2 or something like that for a 14.0/14.0+
Also can we stop comparing it to the Su-27SM, that thing should be 14.0 anyway, I think its more comparable to the Su-30MKs

13.3 with no r-77-1, r-27 and a loadout of 6xr-77 and 2x r-73 and a good l-150 rwr seems fair to me with 32 large countermeasures

Gets a better fm than the mig-29n and 2 more r-73s in exchange for being slower and having half the countermeasures (tho large calibre) and better rwr

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Even if she is placed in the 13.3BR position, the SU-30MKV and SU-30MKK are more powerful than her. These two aircraft can even be purchased directly without the need for development.】

But we can’t let it go any lower. The fact that she and the MiG-29SMT are descending to BR 9.13 and 9.12 means that aircraft with a BR below 12.7 will also be in a more vulnerable position. Both of them are a formidable force for aircraft with a BR below 12.7.

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aand we’re back to decompression, love, gaijin

I wouldnt mind 13.7 with 77-1, but I do think 13.3 is the best course of action if its not going to get more CMs

but believe it or not, the Su30MKs are already more powerful than everything else at that BR

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It’s hard for me to imagine that two high-end aircraft that can be purchased directly would be placed in this BR. They have almost no flaws. The only thing that could limit their performance is whether the pilot who buys them is a novice. Before the PL-12 was weakened, a friend of mine used the SU-30MKK to achieve an almost 8 kill-to-damage ratio. This is not a technical confrontation; it’s a massacre of others in terms of aircraft performance.

If buying a single aircraft alone could make one a god of this BR, then the development of aircraft would lose its significance. It would merely be a “pay to win” strategy.

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i’d say the Su-30MKs are stronger than the new F-16AM premium for france, which is 13.7 as well
it’s just outrageous that they’re still 13.3

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why would you need to defeat an f14 in bvr if you can notch, close the distance and kill him with ease? sounds like a massive skill issue

Tbh gaijin should at first put it without any changes on 13.3 and after few weeks decided to leave it that way or increase br to 13.7 and add R-77-1 if it would be too strong on lower br.

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