Polish F-16 for Germany, instead of F-4F ICE

How is that any different to the F3, FA2, J8, AV-8B+?

I mean, the UK has had this issue with the F.3 even before AMRAAMs.

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Yeah, we had to wait 9 months to get something that could… turn

German Mains just learning the problem with interceptors…They aint meant to furball.

Though, 4x Aim-9Li (assuming it does get them) + 4x Aim-120A + the internal gun + 2 wing guns (assuming you can equip all that at once) is a hell of a lot more WVR performance than most jets at that BR or even top tier. Gripen has great performance but less AAMs and barely any canon ammo.

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As it should be, Tornado F3 is miserable in WVR category.

Even tho i have really good K/D ratio in my F3 its struggles against any player that has more then one braincell.

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It practically is dead on arrival, the only competitive advantages the ICE has at 12.7 compared to its counter parts is just the Aim 120, and having an F-18 radar.

However once you look at its downsides, there is practically no point in playing this over the Mig 29G despite it having no ARH. Even if it got Aim 9Ms or Aim 9L (I), it would make it better though not enough to be competitive at 12.7br. Its the same for the Tornado F3 Late as well. Both the F4F ICE (with aim 9Ms) and Tornado F3 Late should be 12.3br max.

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Why did Japan get Thai planes? Why did France get the Benelux planes? Why did Italy get the Hungarian branch? You just accuse Germany of “stealing” when you don’t have Germany, why can’t a biased player like you get banned by a community manager?

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Have you seen the amount of people who were unhappy with Benelux’s addition to France? Or lesser extent even people being displeased with the Hungarian and South-African additions?

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No, I think the countries you mentioned getting branches is a reasonable compensation for the balance, so I am also trying to get Poland and Argentina branches for Germany, and the guy I replied to was just accusing Germany of “stealing” without being rational from the point of view of game balance

I mean, bar top tier aviation I see little reason why those two are even necessary, especially considering the Polish potential for independent tree.

Still, I understand your frustration.
It is a big generalizing and demeaning assumption

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I agree, it would be a strong, playable option if Poland were to appear in the game as an independent country

Its not that f4f is not meta, its that the ice will be unplayable, dead on arrival, simple as that. A copy paste F16C, same as the one in the american tech tree, makes much more sense.

It does not make sense as germany does not operate F-16s. Hope this helps!

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argentinian F16AM
Chad GIFs | Tenor

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Gaijin has yet to confirm an argentinian sub-tree for germany, and until it is confirmed, this is unlikely

sub nation, why everyone keeps going on that argentina is not a thing for germany?

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what do you mean, argentinia is officialy recoginsed sub nation to germany

Apologies, i was unaware of that message. I would still argue that a domestic option is far better than a copy-paste F-16

i am questioning how u were unaware lol, we have 5 different ones of those because people are always questioning it and are parating them around.

Either way,

its a UK Grippen C situation as simple as that. The eurofighters are further away then you think. The F-16 is supposed to be the possible filler for in between because the f4f ice is crap and only more other vehicles might be added like F/A 18s before eurofighter