ppl defending bots just want a failed enlisted 2.0 again
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I think we should only have bots in arcade, keep realistic only people against other people
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i would, remove the bots and make the infantry games be 64VS64 or something like that to copensate for not having bots
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If I wanted to play battlefield - I would go and buy battlefield.
Stop trying to convince Gaijin to make cheap copies of other games, thats not how you make a sustainable game. Which shows when they copied naval shooter from wows, listening to the community’s suggestions, lmao. And now what? The gamemode is dead. Realistic naval should be a mix of a shooter and rts, not a shooting range as it is rn.
Same will happen if Gaijin will listen to guys who want a cheap copy of battlefield/cod. They wont ever play it cuz, why playing it if there is a separate game about infantry?
Gaijin should follow their own path. Clearly, as AI squads are looking raw even than Enlisted squads - this CBT wave was not about them. Hope in future they will improove them til release.
And also hope they will add an arcade no-bot mode with smallest maps for those who want arcade shooters. So both community parths will be happy.
And then a milsim mode for infantry SB, lol.
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Yay, 10 minutes in lobby to play 10 minutes matches!
You do realise that there will be 2 gamemodes and BRs from 8.0 to 12.0 at least? Also many nations. That all will divide the playerbase, it wont be ever possible to gather 64x64 every couple of minutes, at least.
But then Gaijoob would have to upgrade their servers, and we all know the likelihood of that happening.
Its not the problem of servers whatsoever. Its the problem of low online numbers compared to other games.
There are 200k players that are divided by:
- 6+ separate gamemodes (with infantry it will be 8+)
- BRs from 1.0 to 14.0
- Separate nations
There won’t be enough players to make 64x64 matches without minutes of waiting in hangar.
Even if Infantry will get them another 50k of people it wont be enough.
I’m aware, though I personally think that infantry mode has the potential to add a substantial amount of new players if Gaijin plays its cards right.
I do think Gaijin should at least aim for 32v32 as 16v16 will feel a little barren.
This is what I can’t figure out about Gaijin’s strategy though. I don’t see a way for them to smoothly integrate infantry without splitting the TTs at the beginning of the Cold War, as that is where infantry will begin.
Infantry will start from rank 5, I think and all tech trees of infantry will be like Israeli tech tree?
I would also imagine that there will be a separate BR list for tanks just for infantry mode. As there is a separate BR for planes in GRB.
Anyway, there were t-34 and shermans in Korea, so, why not, I guess. First rank for infantry will be like the magnum opus of ww2 tech with the best weapons and vehicles.
It will be something like 5th rank in Enlisted.
1.Gaijin listened to the community when they made naval.
2.Naval is DOA.
Well, I guess its the other way around. Community will demand f2p battlefield to abandon it in favor of real battlefield because, surprise, but infantry-centric game will always have better infantry than WT.
Hope Gaijin will make unique gamemodes. Arcade no bots with smallest maps of single point and killstreak vehicles (even tanks) and Realistic with squads, normal maps, gamemodes like invasion…
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If you really played enough enlisted, you would know the game is not doing great beacause of content draught, not because of the bots. The first game mode to die in enlisted was the solo one, the one without the bots.
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bots is the reason i never played enlisted in the first place (i remember i almost installed it). if i wanted to kill bots i would play some singleplayer game, and lost of ppl think the same. so yea, removing bots is the minimum
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Ok, now explain how this game can be fun to play without bots, and taking into account the limited respawns. You pretty much die in 1 bullet, and there are tanks and helicopters with thermals, fixed spawn points which guarantee you will get spawn camped. How many people do you think will choose to play this game, where they will run for 5 minutes just to get killed by a guy in a bush, and then return to hangar ?
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yea, and bot is not the answer for any of these problems… again, if i wanted to kill bots i would play a singleplayer game. i want to kill others players, thats the fundamental reason to play a >>MULTIPLAYER<< shooter
idk, just copy what others games already do, is not like this gamemode is unique in the market anyway.
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Bot is just your equipment, same as spike missile, ammo box, recon drone, AA-turrets on your ship or multi-vehicle spaas.
Your bot is your respawn and your turret. It is a part of your equipment and I dont understand why are you so opposing. Just because it has a model of a soldier?
I doubt snail will add 32vs32, these three days we were able to feel what its like to have minutes of queue time trying to find a match. No thanks. I would prefer waiting seconds for 16vs16 matches.
And gaijin is famous because they copied others to make their gamemodes… Oh wait, GRB is popular exactly because it is not a copy of WoT, curious!
And the only gamemode where snail just listened to the community while making it is the dead naval mode, lol.
Hope they will follow their own path. If I wanted to play battlefield… I would play battlefield, lmao, not a bootleg f2p copy of it. Better to be unique than a cheap copy, because unique gameplay makes your own community.
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Problems he stated:
- TTK is a second and less, you die to 1 bullet and with limited respawns you just run a couple of times towards enemy and die to a random bullet.
Bot answer: You have x5 lives in your bots and if you die you can continue exactly from where you were, without running from spawn again or sitting in respawn menue. Also, with better squad features you will be able to spot enemies better (if bots as in enlisted will tell you their environment, such as “grenade here!” or “enemy sniper is shooting at us from X!”, “Contact!” or something like that).
- Vehicles with thermals and HE shells will just 1 shot you and spawn camp you.
Bot answer: With bots you will be able to bring many anti-vehicle equipment in the battle and use them without the need to die and choose another class.
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well, whatever, dont ask why no one plays it later
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Of course if we make a bootleg f2p battlefield it will gather all the battlefielders because they will choose a grinding hell of a game about vehicles over a fullprice game dedicated for infantry, for sure!
is not about make a f2p battlefield, its about players actions having meaning, and when you spend your time and skill killing bots it is meaningless
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