But they have and always will and should thus be accessible to all. You do not seem to mind so much having them yourself.
For the x-th amount of time, those nations that have their own fakes like Japan with the R2Y2’s should keep them.
Tough luck
It does, vehicle collectors and newbies should not have to step back because of your vanity and pride.
It was not announced the moment they were added, neither did any of those three tanks ever have a disclaimer in the game.
I mean, I really do not get him at all. Heed my words for this is what I sternly think and believe:
This Situation is a coin.
It has two sides.
Either all get or keep access to these controversial vehicles, or nobody AT. ALL.
Now, Gaijin can either flip that coin at random, atleast from our limited perspective.
So even if you
then too bad. Gaijin’s words are never a guarantee. You should have been aware about their controversy the moment they got added, and paid them bo attention at all. Because their total removal is one of the two most fair outcomes. So you have no business complaining about
You should have known better. Your fault.
What I want is the SECOND most fair decision on the coin.
They are treated as a form of Event Vehicles and return atleast once every year with an equal chance for all to take to either buy or grind them. You get to keep yours, original as they were made by Gaijin, and I get to have Mine and be at relative peace.
What I am trying to achieve with this thread is for Gaijin to place this coin instead of tossing it. And for it to be placed in the way that it shows the best side for both of us. You keep yours, unchanged, we get ours. The very same ones.
You have explained what you want to happen, and that you dont like fake vehicles, but have completely avoided explaining any further.
So because you own them you are happy to break your own principles and logic and want to keep them. This is absolutely hypocritical, and even if gaijin removed them completely and compensated people for them which they have shown they would, you still would choose to keep them because you want them to stay in your hands, just so long as noone else can get them. You are happy to play and enjoy the vehicles even though you dont think they should be in the game, and want to deny anyone else that fun. Its not really a nice position to take is it? It isnt as bad as the people who just want them to stay exclusive just so they can flex on people but it isnt much better.
You avoided answering this question because you knew your position doesnt really follow your own logic, and have proceeded to try and take the conversation in circles, stating the same things over and over.
3 things.
I’m hardly demanding, at most I’ve asked politely, and when it gets approved, I’ve used the suggestions part of the forum to suggest a fair way people can grind for the vehicles.
It isnt hypocritical at all, what would be hypocritical is if I now said that the Chinese Pt-76 shouldnt come back, or that the R2Y2’s should be removed and not come back. Asking that fake vehicles that were once in the game to stay is not tantamount to asking for new fake vehicles to be added.
I am not saying and have never said that other nations cannot get fake tanks. I think it should be avoided where possible, but I do not oppose the fake ships in naval, or the Japanese getting the F-16AJ to fill the gap. If it can be avoided by adding subtrees then that is great, but if it isnt possible then I am fine with them adding fake or semi-historical vehicles.
They were available to all. That’s how I have them.
The issue is you want them. No argument I make will make you happy. They were in the game. Anyone could get them. They are gone. They should stay gone.
So should we.
Why didn’t you?
Why did you?
I was a stupid Teenager who quickly got turned off by the Economy and cool vehicles being locked behind Eagles. So I got into Battlefield 1 and 4 and a defunct game called “Dreadnought”. And remember, no one ever told me these tanks would become inaccessible. I thought I could just return to War Thunder when I was more mature and persistent and grind them.
If Gaijin were to add them back, and allow them to be researched by anyone apart from me, I would be fine with that. I dont want them back for me, I want them back for everyone and for fairness. Obviously i do want them, but if the price for everyone getting them is me not, thats fine.
Also again ignoring everything i have said and repeating the same things over and over.
I’m ignoring what you post because you ignore what I post. You ask me to explain, and I do, then you ignore it.
I was already grinding the German tree and I decided to get them.
What have you said that i have not addressed?
There is a third option. That being they dont throw out more fake stuff and they dont start removing tanks from players.
Define this please. If you are saying that we get the back the sl cost of buying it and the rp gets returned as free rp, then no. That is a horrible exchange.
That is gaijin taking my rp by force and tell me “if you want it back, pay for it”
The third option would be to make them market place vehicles, that way no more new copies of Panther IIs and Coelians are created, but it allows for the existing ones to be redistributed to players who really want them, i know i would pay as much as an IS-7 to get my hands on that King Panther.
Could not watch it yet, your opinions on it?
Regurgitates false equivalencies between the Tiger II 105 and Panther II which were physically impossible vs the F-16AJ which was a sales prop of an F-16A
Im not sure why people even bring that up, it doesn’t matter exactly how fake a vehicle is, they are past the threshold for Gaijin, and both were only added for a specific reason knowing they would otherwise be too fake to be in the game, with the plan to remove them one day. The point is that there are many players who never had a chance to get them, and everyone should have a fair chance to get anything in the game. We dont want this to turn into WOT where there are hundreds of exclusive vehicles that only appeared for a short amount of time and have gone completely, and we certainly dont want them then turning up in an “auction house” or being locked behind gambling boxes that are marketed at 12+ year olds. All these vehicles should come back, including the removed vehicles from tech trees for other reasons, like the Gladiators that were removed or the Chinese PT-76. There are so many cool vehicles in the game, why arbitrarily make it so that only a small portion of the playerbase can have them.
Thanks for the translation
Here is the “dedicated” thread of the German Trinity if you are interested