Please Give Us Back the Original Panther II, Flakpanzer 341 "Coelian," and Tiger II 10.5cm KwK

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The image is outdated. Tiger IIs have much more detailed gun breeches now.

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Where i have said, that Warthunder is a simulation of the one and only realism ??? Maus, E 100 are never effective in battles… And the cry about “realism” ist once and only, if there is a vehicle, which already exists in the game… The community hasn´t said something while they was available… Then it was “realistic” enough. But now we have got american vehicles on this BR, but if the holy 3 will come back, then it is “Unrealistic” ? Explain me that!! For years it was realistic enough to play with Panther II, tiger 10,5cm and Coelian, but now it is unrealistic ??

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It’s called “buying things”

I never said, that Germany never has used US-vehicles. But they are on the wrong place in the techtree…
The M48, M60 has been build years later. On BR 7.0 are the last years of WW2 simulated… You fight against t44, t44-100, t34-100… Fictional yes, but this tanks are invented by UDSSR self. Why we have got some american vehicles, when Germany could have invented own vehicles ?? Only the fact, that Panther II , Tiger II and Coelian are not real by 1:1, is very weak. We don´t know, what will happened, when Germany put another Gun/turret on the Tiger II. Or how panther II would looks like. Maybe they had found ways to realize the tank from the game. And Coelian is one of the most realistic vehicles of that 3.

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We do, actually.

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Can i put a link to a petition here ??

@Bernd_Schulze If the source is safe, I don’t see why not. I did it once upon a time.

The Coelian should 100% return. It’s totally different from the other German SPAAs because it’s based on the Panther chassis. It was intended for production, and there are photos of a mock-up of it. It has good survivability, good speed, and a good armament. It feels very different from those slow and weak Panzer IV based SPAAs.

I don’t really care if they give it the same belts as the Ostwind II. I just want something different instead of another Panzer IV based SPAA.

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8 months later…

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Yo?

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Wait, the Tiger 105 is… “real”?

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Gonna start getting less surprising now. The T-34-88 was proven real, now it’s only dominos from here.

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The E100, only the Hull was build, like the Coelian, right? So why not add it back and balence it?

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The Coalian was a wooden mockup, but it’s more real than the Ostwind 2.

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Brilliant, thanks for getting this out there. Looking forward to seeing the report!
Would be great to see the vehicle reintroduced with a damage model and texture overhaul like the other King Tigers have had.

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Why should they, it’s only a technical drawing…
They never build a prototype or a mock up.

I’m not saying the drawing is an argument for its re-addition, only that it would be nice to see that happen. I’ve put my reasons for bringing the tank(s) back in this thread already :)

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No, only some technical drawing, of how it could be, the gun was not build and the WaPruef 6 rejected the idea for this type of gun calibre. This was only an idea from Krupp for upgun the Tiger II, nothing else…

And this is the reason for hide the 10.5 Tiger II and the Panther II with the 88 gun, both are total fake…

Less fake than souz - so I’d argue about that being a reason

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