tbh type 74g should NOT be 9.3, it should be 9.0 with the rest of the 74s.
Stat cards cant tell u everything.
And i can tell you very confidently that ZLT11 has the enormous size in which means u cant hide urself behind many rocks and the turret protection is pretty thin even it has 55mm on the turret “on the stat cards”
Pal u playd above 13k rounds and i cant believe u dont know that Type16 almost the best front protection among all the wheels
Just play it.
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Im pretty sure the type 16 is taller and wider than the zlz11… and the reason you dont one shot the type 16 is because all of the crew is at the back… its a rear turreted tank. of fucking course it would be hard to kill frontally. Nothing important is at the front of the tank. Hitting it would just knock out the engine and driver, and possibly one of the loaders… im just hearing a crap ton of skill issue coming from you
Why not check the armor in game?
And i told u already use 9.0 instead.
The reason 74G at 9.3 is just because the thermal sight
I just told u the better tier and u still whining
Dont know how to play it?Then DONT FCKING PLAY IT
U wanna be tough and thats my final answer
I could say the exact thing about 9.0-9.3 Sweden air. Same thing, every match is an uptier. The planes are already overtiered, nothing is just special out of the ordinary. As I don’t play jap and have no experience, I can’t say, but if it’s half as bad as rank VI Sweden air, it’s un-lawfully horrid. As for both I believe, it’s the only way forward, but when you get the next bit, it feels amazing. Me the AJ37, you the next vehicle for you.
9.0 is still a fucking awful br. the whole issue is 9.3 and 9.0 are just awful currently. every game is an uptier
I dont deny that 9.0 will meet the 10.0 about 50% chance
The worst case of 9.0 is to meet TURMS-T with GEN3 thermal but not that good mobility and not that good protection.
But L2A4 will beat the crap out of everyone of u in 9.3 and happily there are fcking plenty of L2A4,No matter its premium or not.No matter its German or Swedish.
Make your choice then.
iirc its like 70%… its just a major issue with gaijin refusing to do br decompression. and there really isn’t any other choice than to suffer in hell for the entire 9.0/9.3 grind…
Example of tryhards defending a game anomaly.
Yes, a level below you can do things.
But it’s not fair to be 9/10 games a whole level below.
It is easy to understand…
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Does any Type 74, beside the premium G, get thermals?
And what other 9.3 japan vehicles get thermals?
What about laser rangefinders?
Im asking because im currently running german mixed 9.3/9.7 TT only lineup and imo its my favorite one, and not all vehicles have thermals or better shells or laser rangefinders.
Only the Type 74 G has thermals, every other Type 74 doesn’t.
All Type 74s except the G variant: Stabilizers /laser rangefinders
All Type 16s: Thermals/laser rangefinders/Stabilizers
Type 89 IFV: Thermals/laser rangefinders/Stabilizers
Type 87 RCV at 9.0 no thermals, no laser rangefinder, no Stabilizers
Wouldnt 9.7 lineup with TT type 16 be solution?
- TT type 16 would provide thermal+lrf+dart sniper,
- type 89 while worse than begleit on paper seems like it could still work,
- type 93 doesnt seem like that much different from ozelot in terms of AA capability
- if i recall correctly, the japanese cobra does get thermals at 9.7
Only issue i could see would be armored option, but if aforementioned type 74s have access to the DM33 equivalent, then i see no issue.
You would still mostly face the same blackhole of TURMS/PzBtl premiums, difference being that at worst you could face be T-90A but thats hardly meta and it doesnt have a 10.7 lineup to support it + DM33 can still deal with it.
Im running the aforementioned german 9.3/9.7 lineup and im having a blast.
Type 16 has been in the game for a little over a year, I never had an issue killing them and playing them they’re now just annoying with the M735 nerf and the endless 10.3 games you get.
Centauro is fine against .50s and it gets DM23
Radkampf has way more armor, still no idea why it’s 9.7 tho.
Rooikat also fine, also at 9.3 but gets over a 100mm more pen.
ZLT also protected against .50s just fine.
True, ngl i completely forgot about the M735 nerfs. The Type 16s do need their missing Type 93 rounds for sure. Don’t misunderstand me though, the reason why I said they still slap is due to my line up. idk if yall have limited slots of 5 or big or how you all play. I can still carry and slap the enemy team, just takes more effort and more brain cells used doing so which to me is easy. Again, to me. I guess im just used to it by now, immune to pain.
-Moving Type 87 RCV to 8.3 since it has no Stab/laser RF/Thermals
-Adding missing ammo Type 93 APFSDS to all Type 16s (Gaijin might move them to 9.7 cuz…its Gaijin)
-Having CAS options like Fuji T-1A, T-33A, T-4 will allow better gameplay than the Sabres.
-Probably moving Type 89 IFV to 8.7 can help since it was indeed nerfed to oblivion
The AH-1E does well at 9.3. Been able to carry games with it as long as there were no SAMs. Type 93 can perform a lot better now as well compared to the previous 4 years.
Japan cant have nice things.
It’s a pretty messy lineup at the end of the day, pretty much scraping the barrel to put that together… they can all work but none of them are really top dog at their own BR, definitely not at 10.3
Heli is a good addition but does require like 300k RP and then another 300k RP to get modules I guess.
All those things should probably be either 9.0 or given good rounds to make them all 9.7 or so, and Japan really needs a CAS option.
Hell no, the problem is that the type 16 9.7 is way out of its br. Theres no other line up for it. and using the 9.7 would only increase the unfairness in which you’re getting uptiered 9.3 against 10.7? The only solution to the whole 9.3 issue is br decompression or limiting ground battle +/- br to .3 or .7. I think maybe introducing a ground br of 15 or 13 would solve this, as seeing leopard 2a4s and trums is just fucking annoying.
DM33 equipped Leopard 1A5s and M48 Supers at 9.3 can deal with TURMS just fine.
AFAIK type 16 sabot is slightly marginally better than DM33, isnt it? Then it should be able to deal with TURMS too.
Leo2A4 can be UFPed with ammo aviable to T-72A and T-72M1. Im sure western equivalents can reach similiar result.
Also there arent many tanks at 10.7, not to mention effective 10.7 lineups.
all 74’s also have type 93 rounds… and theres a big difference in their br… Type 16 should of never been brought up to 9.7. Also the type 89 isn’t worth bringing to 10.3 let alone 10.7. And the whole point of this thread is to call out the fact that 9.3 is uptiered EVERY GAME. Its just boarder line an unplayable br. Theres no solution to it by changing the line up, because japan doesnt have any decent CAS, It has a horrible helicopter, it has horribly over tiered tanks cough cough Type 89, Type 87 rcv, and type 16. Type 16 at 9.7 is another reason to spawn in and leave the game after dying. Its fucking awful. Even playing it with friends is unfun, because every game is extremely unbalanced. Explain to be how a horribly over tiered type 16 would stand any fucking chance against 2a4s, M1 KVTs, Wolfpacks, trums, CT105s, every game.
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Radkampfwagen 90 sits at same BR without thermals.
Leopard 1A5 faces those same tanks too.
Begleit with worse ATGM and only slightly better cannon shell and power to weight ratio (and HE-VT shell) when compared to type 89.
If those tanks can work, what stops the japanese equivalents?
The Type 16 at least gets 400mm of pen, the other near identical Type 16s get 290mm at only a .3 BR decrease, the Type 16 completely lacks a viable lineup whilst the others are too high of a BR whilst also getting sucked into 10.3 consistently, with 9.3 being the most uptiered BR in the game.
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