Exactly, they weren’t ahead, they simply made a bigger tank with a big gun. That isn’t always better because the thing weighed so much.
once again as I said, it’s the use of the tank. The abrams steam rolled in the golf war but the export abrams get steamed rolled a lot, not because it’s a bad tank, but because of the method used. T-34 had it’s advantages but so did the tiger and sherman.
First off, I’m not talking about the T-34—I’m talking about everything but it. The T-34 was a mass-produced tank, and its quality varied a lot depending on the modifications. Compared to other very mass-produced tanks (like 5,000+ units), it’s only slightly better than the Sherman—mainly due to better armor, gun, and engine. The real weakness? Ergonomics.
I’m not even going to bring up the Panzer IV because we already know the answer there.
Then you’ve got the Panther, which—if we’re being real—falls into the heavy tank category once you look at its tonnage.
My point is: tanks like that, bro, do you get it? The IS series? Everything under the IS-6 is still basically a WWII-era tank. The IS-7? First prototype was made in, like, a week later from WW2. And don’t even get me started on the Objects.
My point is, when the USSR went for quality over quantity, its vehicles were straight-up superior.
True
8.0 and 9.0 wait for you
The Korean War is literally the forgotten war. It seems like everyone forgets that the Russian and American vehicles fought and the Russian vehicles held up, DESPITE fighting half the world into a stalemate
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Tanks were never the Americans’ strong point, but rather their air force and navy
It was only a stalemate because of certain things that aren’t allowed to be discussed on here. It was nothing incredible.
That is true
It cant be both. which one is it?
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I love seeing Americans flip flop. “We have the best tanks in the world” to “We don’t care about tanks, we have the best air force in the world!” It’s like the whole, “we are undefeated in war!” to “we just got bored and left” or “it wasn’t an actual war since we never declared war on X country”
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Statshark
Yeah say that to whoever designed the tigers and panthers and maus
Go punch your anime waifu body pillow. We all know you have one
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I never said American tanks were the best in the world, and I’ve never seen anyone say that, if any American said that it was just out of patriotism.
Sadly they exist here. I had a dude argue that the abrams is frontally immune to tank rounds. His proof was the abrams not getting frontally penned by t62s in the middle east.
I remember hearing some person saying the only Abrams that was destroyed in the Middle East could not be destroyed.
If I remember correctly, one Abrams got stuck and couldn’t be pulled out, so they tried to blow it up, but it wasn’t destroyed. So then they shot it and it didn’t get destroyed. Then they called in an airstrike on it so then the terrorists couldn’t get the Abrams, and it still was not destroyed.
These Americans have the weirdest stories. But God for id you bring up how the Abrams was destroyed in Ukraine, and then they will say, “it’s a tank, it’s bound to be destroyed! How’s your turret ring competition, Ivan?”
Exactly. Their bipolarity is insane
How do you guys even doubt a nation where they can’t afford an ambulance ride, but there’s a tank in every desert just in case freedom breaks out?
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Like yeah, tanks are bound to be destroyed, but going on about how American tanks are invincible, and then in the same sentence, blame the Ukrainians for Abrams blowing up is hilarious.