Play to pain or Pay to play

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gaijin are you looking for opportunities of ameliorations ? :

-Servers are bad.

-Console: aim assist is bad and lack customization. It keep being interrupted by the tiniest of grass.
Also don’t have the ULQ luxury.

-Match maker putting lvl 100 players against lvl 15.

-Extremely bad survivability…

-In Assault mode, AI is WAY over power. It’s a death fest. The AI will ALWAY hit you bull eye even on the move and that is not when they kill you as soon as you re-spawn. Sometimes, tanks will start to literally fly all around, bouncing like balloons.

In air assault you can’t even make on pass without having your wing cut off, pilot one shot or oiled tank emptied…… Even worse, you can’t even break 15% WR in this mode.

-Grind is atrociously stupidly long. Rank 3 clearly is the pay wall, and most people stop playing there, when not earlier

-PVP is pay to be on par because of purchasable crew skills and upgrades.

-Pay to skip trash vehicles.

-Pay to be able to use free research points

-Can’t even get to drop a single bomb before you get killed when in a bomber.

-In-game economy is terrible.

-Ranking VS Rating is totally disconnected.

-People spawn on top of each other

-In air battles you plane tail gets ripped off even in a head on encounters

-huge lack of PVE content, both in quality and quantity.

…… and the list goes on …… this game is a joke and Im just glad i never spend a single penny in this game.
Gaijin you don’t deserve it.

Ya, i dare say it. This game is a total ******g ****e *f ***t
To the veteran, It’s not because it was worse before that it’s good now

edit: I forgot to mention that most of my comment apply to arcade battles. I have no experience in RB and SM.

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Pay to play

How does “pay to play” solve the problems you described? Will you play on other servers where there won’t be console aim assist, there will be a different matmaker and other things?

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Amen Brother! The game has gone down hill fast!

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I said pay to play, because until you’r maxed out every where, or almost, you are just easy pics for the others. And you can pay to max everything. As for the solutions, Ill let gaijin work it out ;)

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Well this is the result of having a monopoly over the market. War thunder right now is the only simcade tank and plane game (with the exceptions of a few roblox games and GHPC, which isnt multiplayer nor pvp). It has no competitors that can match its scale. Gaijin would never be this greedy if another game in the same genre is as big and popular as war thunder.

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Yeah, it’s called a f2p game.

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Off the bat, this is something that is being looked at but it’s more often the connection and route, more than it is the actual servers.

Everyone says it’s the servers because they want to blame Gaijin and not do any diagnosis, because ‘everyone’ is having it, but it’s not everyone.

And trust this guy to pounce on anything possible about Gaijin…

This is the kind of thing that makes diagnosis and trying to help someone nigh impossible.

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1- ? Servers run.
2- ULQ is not a luxury, ULQ is a hindrance.
3- Keep your bigotry to yourself. Level has nothing to do with anything other than vehicle collection.
4- ? This one flat out makes no sense.
5- Yes, that’s an issue.
6- False?
7- Yes, the grind is ~100 hours with a premium account and ~200 hours without, to top BR.
8- No… no where close. Crew skills while nice are not a necessity. As me how my level 8 Israel crews are still getting my average KDR and KMR as my level 80+ crews.
9- Tech tree vehicles are better yes.
10- ? Free research points aren’t a thing.
11- Simulator is where bombers thrive.
12- Haven’t lost money since the major buffs so IDK about that.
13- Report the bug?
14- Then they shot through your plane.
15- That’s cause PVE content requires new AI which is in development.

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ehhh only really CIS and SA

I agree, Aim assist needs to be removed

What’s the luxury in ULQ?

That’s the way the cookie crumbles, better than SBMM

What does this mean

Assault modes were abandoned ages ago

Same as before

Ehhh the grind up till rank VI is fine in my experience. I really started to feel it there - especially in Japan when there was no aircraft with flares in rank VI. Took me like 300 games to get the F-4EJ but yeah above rank V needs a big rework

ehhh most of my crew slots are low level and it doesn’t change much imo, unless it’s like level 0 crew vs level 150

again, that’s just how the cookie crumbles. Some vehicles will be worse than others.

*after 3.7 but yes

*Convertable RP

yes

yes

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nothing wrong with this

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2- It was a sarcasm
3- Ya right! it doesn’t take 100s if not 1000s of hours to get to lvl 100.
4- Yes it does. In this game you spend more time re-spawning then actually playing.
6- True! true! true!
8- Maybe not in Simulation mode or Realistic mode but in Arcade mode they do. Mine are not even maxed out and i can already see a difference.
10- Yes they are. “Convertible research point” they are called in-game. My bad for not being more specific.
12- I was talking about the SL cost of everything, from new vehicles to crew expertise. You even have to buy vehicles you might not even play to progress further down the trees.
14- hmmm, it’s that there is an engine, then a pilot, then usually a protective plate, then the tail of the plane…

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“I agree, Aim assist needs to be removed”
Actually it need to be improved. I play on console and i wouldn’t play without it, but it has some draw back.

“What’s the luxury in ULQ?”
I was a bit sarcastic, but it seems on PC you can set you graphics setting to ultra low which gives huge advantage for spotting in tank battle at least. Ive seen some tubes about the subject and how it’s it seems to be “op” sort of speak. On Console you can’t change the graphic settings at all.

“What does this mean”
It means you spend more time re-spawning then actually playing. well at lest in arcade mode.

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You should try chucking a mouse on and see if you can run the controller and the mouse at the same time.

And if you’re using wifi, that’ll cause a HEAP of grief with your connection.

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Haven’t had an issues with servers in a long time and when it does happen (and I know it’s not on my end) the problem is resolved within a day.

I don’t really know what else you want from Gaijin, a few outages once a blue moon is really not extraordinary for an MMO.

I play connected to my LAN cable.

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3- I’m unaware, all I know is it’s tied to vehicle collection. And my first two tech tree completions took 3 months despite being new to grinding and playing other tech trees as well.
4- My average lifespan is 5 minutes…
8- Then I’d suggest expanding your knowledge to other game modes.
10- That’s extra points that you can pay for, but that’s it. It’s not free, it doesn’t reduce your rewards from match.
12- Expert crewing isn’t something I recommend most of the time. I’ve been doing it more recently cause I’ve been buying vehicles on sale and playing just to play, but I ran without expert crews on all but the dogfighters I like for years.

I understand your frustration. I’ve been one to blame things that aren’t correct blame.

And as others said, you could run mouse, or mouse and keyboard, with your console as they are compatible.

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I’d rather all SPAA have access to it, and not have it limited to console players.

I agree. Rank V is where it gets much longer and more expensive, not rank IV.

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Air rb grinding is much easier than ground rb. Ground rb also doesn’t give much sl.

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It is already op, I’ve had console players track me through mountains with SPAA.

As a ULQ user of just over 6 years I guarantee it has no form of advantage (at least at 720p 30hz)

thats an idea but SPAA is OP already

anything added after I started playing seems absurdly long to grind (late 2018 ish)

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Im a premium player, and personally the Air grind is in a good spot. Ground grind? Its absolutdly abysmal.

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I’m barely ever on a premium account (I got 28 days from the recent Russian pack sales) but other than that I didn’t. The air grind is too long and the ground grind is worse

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Im not going to say anything about f2p as i javent been for a few years. I wouldnt play personally. If you are into war thunder seriously you should really spend those 20 bucks every 6 months. It makes the game much more fun as you arent scrounching for sl and repair cost stops existing.

I still shudder when i remember when i was grinding sweden f2p before economy update. 20k costed the j29a to repair.