Planned Battle Rating changes (table updated 04.08.2023)

lower the F4S battle rating, i’m done playing at rating 12.0 with a payed aircraft !

Purely from the perspective of an air RB player
Nice to see the F-104J go down, although I don’t understand why the chinese version
remains at 10.7.
I would suggest overhauling the 8.3-10.3 br range, currently high performing 9.3 jets like the Mig-19s, F-104As and the Lightning F.6 dominate in a downtier (planes like the Venom, Swifts, F9Fs, early Sabres lack speed and acceleration to deal with supersonics) but at the same time these 9.3 aircraft stand no chance against the prevalence of all aspect missiles in an uptier.
Therefore I’d suggest:

  • uptier supersonic 9.3 jets such as the F-104A, Mig19s and Lightning by 0.3
  • uptier 10.0 and 10.3 jets that carry all aspect missiles such as the A6E, A10 and Su25 by 0.3
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Any chance for Type 16(FPS) To receive upgraded shell?

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True, US M60 getting buffed would strongly improve US 7.7 lineup. Which could use a buff.

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exactly. my point, its fine that 6.0/6.3 is getting “help” but nothing else is getting fixed, and that is the largest issue with people complaining, a few machines are getting fixed overall at that but it isn’t fixing what the game NEEDS

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So M60A1 DC Ariete going to’ 8.0 withouth even a stab.
MTCA going to’ 9.0 with no thermals
Re 2005 going to’ 6.0 for what reasons? You really want no One playing Italian props, don’t You?
Meanwhile F104S and TAF that were perfect at 10.7 today are still at 12.0.
G91Y still at 9.3 (It Need to’ go to 9.0)
G91YS still at 9.7 (meanwhile the F104A and C are went down to 9.3)
Why do You hate Italian viechles?

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so the decompression we just had is just being undone leopard 2a4s are now back to fighting what they were dominating before

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hope they mean 11.0 → 10.7 so we can have 10.7 lineup

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The Balance changes leaves out T-55AMD-1(Arcade).

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Why is 6.3 not included. For example, US BR 6.3 is pure pain. Every match is a full uptier so facing IS-3 and IS-6 with my Pershing’s are not enoyable. Basically Pershing’s are useless at that BR. Either lower their BR or fix matchmaking coz playing them is becoming tiresome and i’m not enjoying it.
Can’t pen IS-3 and IS-6’s anywhere.
So changing them to 7.3 is not gonna help US players who just want to enjoy their Pershings and not die everytime to them. Even Phlydaily’s latest video about the T29 shows the problem

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I would like to see the the T92, m50 and M56 move up to 7.0
They are small and all use HEAT.
Their armor is thin but they aren’t front line tanks, they’re meant to be stealthy.
Currently you can have all 3 in a lign up and ruin 5.7 matches.

The ELC bis seems to have been forgotten over the years and should also move to 7.0, 90 mm heat with 320mm of pen shouldn’t be sitting at 6.0

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Best would be complete BR decompression. Add 0.3 per rank, then move highest performer per rank another 0.3 and lower the worst performer 0.3. just make it plane and simple, there would be too much to manage.
With such a huge decompression many lineups would get blow up, creating space for new ones and making asymmetrical lineups less punishing.

As a bonus to Gaijin, less dense lineups increase the usefulness of premium vehicles to complement lineups. Now some mid tier US and Gran ground lineups are soo dense there are way too many vehicles to use, makeing premiums less useful.

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i just bought obj 120 and is6 for use with t54 (1949)
i want u to refund!!! its crazy change and no brain planning! obj120 in AB→7.7??? t54(1949)→8.0???

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I do not play US 6.7 and 6.3 any longer. Will start again when BR or matchmaker become more favourable again.

No you can’t, this is provably untrue. The Tiger II UFP is impenetrable for the T34 unless you shoot something like the MG port, something the Tiger II can also do against the T34. The only full bore AP round in the whole game that is fired by a ground vehicle can reliably go through the Tiger II’s front plate is the Object 279’s 130 mm APCBC which just so happen to also be the strongest ground vehicle full bore AP round. It’s also a whole 2.0 BRs above the Tiger II (H) so it isn’t even an issue to begin with.

Both tanks can penetrate each other’s mantlets/turret fronts, both tanks can penetrate each other’s LFPs (although the Tiger II has the transmission there which will eat up some shrapnel on top of the T34 shooting only solid APCBC with no filler). Besides that the tiger II reloads quite literally twice as fast.

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Hello there!

GROUND RB
While the purpose of these changes can be understood and appreciated, it should be considered that by creating a localized decompression, it will RE-create a compression at the same time. If the maximum BR level will not be increased beyond 12.0, by raising all veichles in the attached list you will certainly will achieve the result of giving more “oxygen” to everything that will be left below them…but will be strangle those very same veichles against everything that is above them…which, by the way, is what caused few month ago the rise of the BR of all the ground veichles at 9.7 and above.
So, in conclusion, it’s not a good idea if implemented without increasing the BR theshold at the same time.
AIR RB
Overall changes to planes and ships seems “okeish” to me, with the exception of the F-8E (FN) going at 10.0…It’s the same story that this plane share with others like the Yak-38, A-10, A-6E, Su-25…We are talking of detrimental flight (and sometimes combat) perfomances putted together with AA missiles that simply smashes everthing and everyone…I undestand your actions, but maybe this problem is just the symptom that an overall ridesign of AIR RB should be considered, as we can’t continue to run in circle facing the same problem over and over regarding Strike-Fighters. All these planes that I mentioned regularly face jets that have almost ZERO possibility to evade an R-60/R-60M, AIM-9L or the R550.

**In short, the issue reported about the technology edge for tanks exists in this very game also for Jets. **
You are just “moving” the problem, not solving it at the core.

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only 7.3 to 9.7 is going up, so now we are compressed into 10.0 battles

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  1. Why moving z9w and z9wa 0.3 higher, do u think z9wa should be same br as mi28? And now I can’t have a 10.0 lineup with the z9wa once again just like the z19 and z19e at 11.0. Hope you mean reduce z19 and z19e to 10.7 in the sheet so we can have a nice 10.7 lineup.

  2. ptl02 and wma301 to 9.0? with that bad reverse speed and armor at same br with type16 which is much better and have drones.

  3. if you want to move up the zlt11, give it the reverse speed it should have man. it is almost not playable rightnow

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If you have a house that’s too small for 10 people to live in you won’t solve the problem by moving more people to one room, it will just make for even less space for people in that room. You need to get bigger house. Meaning make the BR range bigger or BR spread in one match 0.7 instead of 1. About 95% of community wants to wait longer for better matches. Just ask us.

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Do u guys plan on balancing the 5.7 to 7.3 air realistic br bracket? The fact that the f84 can have an airspawn and reach my airfield in less than two minutes when im in a prop is broken as hell jets such as the f84, f89, p80, f80, sk60 and most 7.0 early jets can face props is just broken as hell. When can we expect this change? Will there be a wall put between props and jets? How has this not been adressed?

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