Why on Earth aren’t ATGM carriers going up alongside everything else; You’ve effectively downtiered the IT-1 and RakJPZ 2s which is just…baffling.
Also the biggest problem in the 7.X range were definitely the light tanks/TDs, not the MBTs. The Marder A1, BMP-1, Ikv-91 and Raketenautomat have no right sitting under 8.0 in this list.
Mi-4AV have 4km missiles but all missile SPAA moved up in br from it. Now soviet(and only) have heli with ATGM and almost no missile spaa to kill it with.
Mi-4AV must go to 8.3
I like to see the F-104J coming down but it needs CMs very badly tbf, same thing for Mitsubishi F-1(which is missing AIM-9Ls, while facing R-60M and AIM-9L carriers).
J-7D should get two PL-8 or get moved down to 10.7, its facing 12.0s way too often and J-7E is on the same BR while having much better flight performance. The MiG-21SMT with comparable flight performance of the J-7D is at 10.3.
I also think that the Type 93 should get the improved Type 91 Kai missiles, its currently one of the worst short range SAMs in-game and you move it up, which is kind of unfair.
The PTL02/WMA301 are much worse than the Type 16 (P), yet they’re both getting a 9.0 BR.
Their mobility:
16.84hp/t, -8km/h reverse for PTL02
21.92hp/t, -37km/h reverse for Type 16 (P)
Their gun handling:
4 degrees of gun depression on a taller hull for the PTL
6 degrees of gun depression on a shorter hull for the Type 16
Their survivability:
This cannot be numerically shown due to complexity, but the Type 16 is far more survivable due to its interior design and simply thicker armor that can resist 12.7mm and 14.5mm rounds. This can be tested in the garage with your own eyes.
Their firepower:
The PTL’s 100mm DYW penetrates 380mm while the Type 16 penetrates 350mm, which offers no differences in combat, yet the PTL’s round spalls a lot less due to lower mass.
They both have thermals and LR.
Frankly, I think these vehicles are worlds apart. Anyone who has played the PTL knows how awful it actually is, but not many play China in general. The ZTL also has the same horrid weaknesses of the PTL, and also has a historical issue with its reverse speed that was reported and never fixed. The ZTL is easily worse than the Type 16 (P), not even the regular Type 16, yet it will be a higher BR. This all feels like an out of season April Fools, to be honest. As someone who has played these vehicles.
Their awful gun depression, lack of survivability (no huge engine in front, no considerable internal plating) and massive size makes them some of the worst in the game. The depression and size combo with -7km/h reverse speeds makes them terrible regardless of their BR. I would simply like to see contemporaries that are far superior to not insultingly be the same BR or even lower.
As they should.
OF-40Mk2 fires DM33, easily taking on all tanks of 9.0, and can pen every tank of 10.0 with some challenge.
Nothing is being compressed.
No. Just no. You’re arguing for compression.
No. There are more balanced 1.0 difference vehicles than compressed vehicles, so this would require compression to pull off.
Everyone is talking about the Ground changes, but honestly could not care enough.
F-104J to 10.3 is good, thing doesnt have flares, but the F-104A and C being at 9.3 is too low. They can dictate the fight of anything they face at that BR and lower. Please raise their BR to 9.7.
Re.2005 going to 6.0? Please help me understand this. It has decent turn rate but thats about it. Its not superb at climbing and not even the best at turn fighting but it deserves a raise to 6.0?
Can the Tornado IDS be lowered to 11.0? Its currently the same BR as the ADV/F.3 because it has CAS options? There are many lower BR planes that are better CAS and lowering the IDS would just be more enjoyable to grind it in air RB, while in Ground RB it would make little difference and not cause an imbalance.
How do you guys continue to ignore the T32 and T32E1? They should at least get reload buffs. If Gaijin is going to continue ignoring historical bug reports about these tanks, they should buff them in other ways.
The T29 should absolutely stay at 7.0.
How is it justified to give Soviet based tanks a major reload buff across the board but not other tanks?
If this is the big rebalance of Cold War vs conventional tanks part of the road map, it’s an absolute disappointment.
Improving the environment is a good thing. The original intention of this BR change is worthy of recognition.
But there are a few points(The following statements are all about RB)
Why did the Chieftain mk3 and T-62 also go to 8.7? It was two of the two worst early MBTs of 8.3 – no laser rangefinder, poor maneuverability and turret speed, slow rate of fire, lack of good shells, homogeneous steel armor for HEAT and missile resistance. Both of them should stay at 8.3
2.Is it somewhat unreasonable that the T-54 family is still in a unified BR with the type 59?Perhaps it would be better to consider keeping the T-54’s 11.5-8.5 reload time at 7.7, as distinct from the 8.0 type59
3.Why is the Japanese F104J down 10.3, and the same without flare, the same flight performance, only 4× AMI9J’s Chinese F104G is still at 10.7?This problem is a bit like the last American F5A and its Chinese version, and hopefully this problem can be solved
g91y and g91ys should still be BR down. And gaijin should continue to pay attention to these old jet fighters that lack flare and excellent missiles, many of which no one wants to play because of the excessive poor gaming experience, only some skilled players are willing to try, remember the previous joke about the Italian CL-13?
Also, I think it’s worth reminding everyone that in the previous BR changes, we increased the 9.7-11.3 vehicles. So now we’re adding 0.3BR to all 7.0-9.3 vehicles. Vehicles from 10.0-11.7 should continue to be increased by 0.3 all the way to 12.0, otherwise the previous changes are meaningless
Since the Soviet, Chinese (and by extension Israeli/Finnish) T-series tanks are getting a reload buff, I know a few tanks which would benefit from a similar correction, which is historical and would take some pressure off of the lower tiers by moving them up a bit. Here are my suggested corrections:
Fix the reload rates for AMX M4 and Char 25t from 6.7s to 4s, raise their brs from 6.7 to 7.0/7.3 and 7.3 to 7.7 respectively:
Fix the reload rate for AMX-50 TO90/930 from 6.7s to 4s, raise br from 7.3 to 7.7:
Seeing the overall decompression is nice and all, but if you’re going to decompress the 7.0-9.7 range then you need to move everything 10.0+ up by .3 making the new max BR for ground 12.0. it makes some of the decompression you did before at the 10.0 range pointless as now you just compress the 9.0-10.0 range again after literally just decompressing it…
And I still highly suggest moving the Type 16(FPS) to 9.3 and giving it Type 93 APFSDS. It makes no sense for you to have removed the Type 74G from sale just to replace it with a lower BR premium despite the fact it could, and should’ve been the same BR since Type 16s only used Type 93 as their APFSDS… As one who owns the 74G it doesn’t affect me much, but it seems slightly unfair to those who now can’t buy a solid 9.0 backup(that can fight to top tier as well since Type 93 is sufficient enough for 11.7) all because you chose to be ahistorical with it’s ammo just to unnecessarily place it at a lower BR despite being a damn replacement…
Downtier the kugelblitz please to 6.7. It should not be 7.0 in the first place. It has now no line up except 7.7 where m163 and zsu are. Both are much better
Please, PLEASE add m833 to the M1 Abrams and M1 KVT. This would go a long way to improving these two’s performance as they are currently seriously outclassed by other nations MBTS in that BR. the Leo 2A4s has similar speed, same thermals, better protection and considerably better firepower, the only advantage the M1 has being the reload. T72 TURMS and ZTZ 96 both have much better firepower. Protection and thermals, only falling behind on mobility. Even the Challenger DS has better armor protection, similar reload and better firepower, only having worse mobility.
The Type 87 RCV prototype shouldn’t go to 7.7, it should stay at 7.3 because it just has a weak pen belt and nothing more, but when that goes to 7.7, Japan has no other vehicles at 7.7