These changes are good.
But in the last BR changes the BR seeling went up too 11.7 too make some tanks not face top tier that much. But now some tanks will face some pretty modern tanks more again, so should the max BR for top tier increase to 12.0 max?
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PTL-02 should be moved to rank VI
PTL-02 and WMA-301 should either not go up or all other wheeled lights at the same BR (Type 16 (P), Type 16 (FPS), Rooikat MTTD) should go up 2 steps - since they outperform the chinese ones in extremely important ways like reverse speed, depression and armor (like not being .5 callable from the front), while having only slightly less penetration.
ZTS63 also shouldn’t go up since it’s worse than the IKV-91 (no depression, lower reverse speed, penetration, longer reload and massively worse gun handling).
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I would strongly suggest the Dreadnought does not go to 6.0, that has no business facing 5.0 cruisers and DD.
Ship launched torpedos rarely hit and even when they do they frequently do little damage, Omaha’s and Moffett have no business facing off against Dreadnoughts.
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You cannot state that there is no compression. Mid-cold war MBTs like the OF-40 Mk.2 and Leo 1A5 going up in BR means that they’ll fight superior opponents that they normally wouldn’t have to face and were generally well rounded at their BR.
Just increasing the BR of nearly everything in the 7.0-9.0 range doesn’t help. WW2 vehicles will fight cold war vehicles less, yes, but you’re not seeing the bigger picture, the cold war vehicles are being compressed as the result of decompression of WW2 vehicles
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Surprised nobody talking about flareless subsonic jets in ARB in this topic…
It is nice that “decompression” was done in Ground Battles, but why not adapt it to ARB as well?
The current 8.3BR-10.3BR is exactly what is happening in current ground battles, Korean War era jets and WW2 era rocket aircraft are facing against Mach 2 class supersonic aircraft such as F-104A/F-104C and attackers that has all-aspect missiles. The current old top dogs (F-2 Sabre/CL-13A Mk.5/MiG-17/Hunter F.1/F-40 Sabre) face wagainst them quite often exactly when they get 9.7-8.7 games or 10.0-9.0 games and there are literally nothing they can do.
I’m not asking for matchmakers like in the golden days of the top tier as before supersonics and AAMs, but the matchmakers and BR should be fixed to make the old top dogs playable again.
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Please, for the love of God, put the Raketenautomat to a higher BR, it has absolutely no right to be where it is. It literally deserves a 0.7 BR increase, not just an increase from decompression, it’s literally a much better USH.
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Hmm, ROCAF F-104G not going down to 10.3 with the 104J?
Hope it’s getting AIM-9P4’s then.
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The GRB changes are among the worst ever proposed, 7.3-8.7 was already about the least comfortable BR range to play in uptiers, and on top of this it isn’t even like all of those vehicles are going up together, so a lot of lineups are going to be broken up. Why was this specific BR range targeted for nerfs? Do you expect us to believe that all of these vehicles are overperforming?
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Any chance of some rank changes with this? The PTL02 will be almost 1.0 BR higher than the CM25 a rank above it (and after it position in the tree). I know you moved it to rank 6 with the econ changes that got reverted, but could it be done here?
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For a real BR decompression the best solution is a spread BR +/- 0,7 instead of +/-1…
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WolfPack should not get the M900 rounds, it would be unfair to Techtree version M1128.
If the M900 is to be added to Wolfpack, consider buffing the autoloader of tech tree M1128 ?
Some files mentioned that the later version of the autoloader is way faster than 7.5 seconds.
Still adjusting to the new forum, correct me if reply wrong
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Tornado F3 should have gone down to 11.3, not the ADV moved up to 11.7, it cant compete in EC9
Tornado Gr1, ASSTA and IDS should have gone down to 11.0 in SB. Makes no sense that only the MFG has an SB rating of 11.0 and the other 3 at 11.3
Also no fix for the F4J(UK), its worse than the FGR2 but sits 2 BR steps higher in SB
You have failed to listen to the community once again
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EXACTLY, instead of doing a huge BR rework, they are putting a small patch that is making a bigger wound.
its not fixed, it is more in the lines of “pushing” the issue higher…
BR’s need an entire rework, a clean slate like rewards, go larger, smarter, and machines 1.0 higher shouldn’t feel like you are completely worthless when its even a modest 0.3 br uptier or 0.7 uptier, let alone a full uptier…
pushing it only 0.3 higher only makes those FEW times a full downtier happens that goes into wwll but not fixing coldwar and above
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It’s impossible that battle rating for Air realistic Battle & Air simulator battle move to 14.0 now because gaijin open new rank X in the future
I think gajin should be open rank VIII for modern ground vehicle and 12.0 BR max
For China Air can the Q-5L be moved down a rank since it lacks air to air offensive armament, and flares. Its current position is more well suited to a pre/early production Jh-7.
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The real way to decompress WW2 is not just to move up the stuff that’s in cold war as that just compresses cold war, it’s to increase the max BR ceiling by at least 0.7 (or ideally more), and even everything up
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Come on, why are the Tornado IDSs’ still so high? 11.3 is a ridiculous BR for them, they should be at 11.0
(RB) maximum.
“But they have a big bombload”
Over 90% if the time you can only get to a SINGLE base at best. It’s almost impossible to get to the second base because:
- The enemy will focus you because they know you’re a free kill. Especially the top tier fighters.
- The other bases are already taken by the premium base bombers.
- Even if you do miraculously survive after the first run, the matches usually are over before the second round of bases spawn (and good luck getting to them).
“It has two AIM-9L and is supersonic”
The f104S.ASA can equip four (or two + radar missiles) with better flight performance. The Kfir C.7 is also with 4 Python 3s. Tornado ADV with 4 9L + 4 SuperTEMP. All at the same BR 11.3 but miles better.
“It has four laser GBU for GRB”
The Jaguar GR.1A is at 10.3. Does two more laser GBUs deserve a whole 1.0 BR increase? Not to mention the superior manoeuvrability of the Jaguar. Also, neither Germany, Italy or Britain have a single ground vehicle at 11.0, it would be basically impossible to add tornado to a 11.0 BR lineup because they don’t exist, it will still have to be paired with 11.3/11.7 top tier vehicles regardless.
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Leave the T114 alone. Send it back to 6.7 where it belongs. 7.7 is to high for T114. It cant be in 8.7 matches thats ridiculous.
This is not balance.
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Overall good changes, but I believe that both the T29 and IS-6 shouldn’t be moved up.
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SO what i see here is the decompression of the Late WW2 early Post war. Some 6.7 HEAT slinger moved up out of the 5.7 bracket.
Big losers are the old 9.0 bracket since they now meet the 10.3 bracket, winners are the 10.3 bracket more food to kill and all T-54,55,62 models since they get a RoF increase.
some minor ammo changes to 30mm AC, and USA changed Canadian ammo for it’s own and the premium now has the same round as the regular Striker.
As i said the BIG losers are the BR 9.0, they now can face 3rd generation MBT (LEO2, M1, T-80B, Strv-121, CR Mk3, T-72M2 Moderna, which were designed to take the stock 105 HEAT round.
And the Leo1 finally got recognized as a 2nd gen MBT and moved to 8.0.
As mentioned before i guess that the T series got a RoF upgrade to handle the uptier, what is going to be done with the newly made 9.3 which in some cases have to fight said 3rd gen MBT’s with DM33 or sometimes DM23 or equivalent?
Some vehicles like the Merkava 1 and 2B variant still only get M111 Hetz as a tier 3 upgrade, at the very least they should get M413 (DM33) or in some cases even M426 (DM63), to combat the more powerful and better armed enemies.
this of course goes for all 9.0’s that went up, look at available rounds and implement them.
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