Planned Battle Rating changes (table updated 04.08.2023)

RU 11.7, not France 11.7 bud

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I really do not understand the M1A1 and IPM1 thing.

The IPM1 is in every aspect worse than M1A1 and is still going up to 11.0 for no reason and is also higher in a tech tree than M1A1. Why is that? It doesnt make any sense. In my opinion the IPM1 should stay with its weak 105mm on 10.3-10.7 and M1A1 should move to 11.0.

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I could not disagree more with the BRs you are proposing. And I would consider myself a US main, if anything.

Edit: Do keep in mind that 6.7 US will not be able to fight a Leopard 1 when these changes roll out. So even the entire concept of “they should be lower so they don’t fight the Leopard” will already be in effect.

IPM1 has the armor of M1A1 with a faster firing meta round.
M900 with 600mm of pen at 100 meters isn’t weak.

@Richardguy
There, I made it more obvious to you that I was talking about Soviet 11.7. There is no Russian tech tree BTW.

The USSR tech tree is effectively the RU tech tree from BR 10.0 and onwards.

M900 have 522mm of pen max. Check it. It is really not that good round at 11.0-11.7.
M1A1 have 600mm of pen. There it makes sense.

Yes, but the 35mm systems (Gepard, Type 87 and so on) as well as the SIDAM have a very limited APDS ammo pool, whereas the Falcon and AMX have complete ammo belts with APDS.

60 degree angles dude, multiply those numbers by 2.

Lots of good suggestions - couple gripes here. Earlier we saw an increase of the top br from 11.3 to 11.7 to alleviate some of the pain felt by the near top tier vehicles - this change appears to undo that, but it seems like there are future updates that hopefully will also raise the top br.

Curious why the PUMA is going up to 10.0? It does definitely suffer especially compared to similar auto canons like the 2s38 which is also at 9.7. The PUMA doesn’t appear to be very much better than the 2s38, and definitely not enough to warrant a higher br.

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that’s also a benefit faster ttk against heavy targets aswell as being way more effective agaist aircraft in general the 30mm are quite average agaist aircraft

Overall ok changes, I’m done beating the dead horse of frigates in naval, maybe Gaijin never figures out what to do with them, maybe they stay dead content whatever…

Anyway, for air RB :
Mirage F-1C(T&C200) 11.3→11.0
Same old, the S530F are a joke, the Magic 2 is only a danger to planes that have no flares, the MiG-23M&MF are 11.0 and they’re not gamebreaking, the Mirage F-1C isn’t more powerful than these planes, but it’s certainly still not a 11.3 vehicle. Reconsider it’s BR if you ever give us actual Magic 2s, but in the meantime send it down so it can be playable.

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The issue is the 2S38 need to raise, same about T-72AV.

Other way : why M48s aren’t going to 7.7 like T-54 1947 / Centurion mk 3 ? M47s need threir own place to be ‘interest’, outclassed by M48 at the same BR.

M46 : 7.0 , M47 : 7.3 and M48 7.7 looks great (The M103 was exactly the heavy support in that time, as 7.7)

Other point for @Stona_WT : Leopard 1, Centurion mk 10, M60/M48 105mm are going to 8.0, what’s about the italian M47 105mm ? Cans it raise too ? beacause stay at 7.3 right now and it’s late Middle Cold War vehicule.

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i think 11.0 is good with a lot of the 10.7s going up to 11.0

so as there’s no searchbar or anything like that, i can’t seem to find the TURMS-T and the Panzerbattalion 123.

if that’s the case and they won’t get moved higher that would mean EVERYONE ELSE is getting nerfed while they get buffed because they get to play with more tanks that didn’t match up with them in BR.

For example i play the Type 74G and it’s impossible for me to go up against the Panzerbattalion 123 but after the change it is?

The Panzerbattalion should be moved up as well, don’t you think?

So how about we balance things by there capability not model year? Example amx30(1970), it’s fine where it is. Sure it can pen things but medium reload, no stab, no thermal, no era, no APFSDS, loud engine. It should not face 9.0+tanks, ever.

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Object 279 is still at 8.7, meaning that it will face Centurion Mk3, Caernarvon, etc, which have little to no protection against its round (that can easily 1-shot kill anything it goes against), all while not being able to penetrate it in front aspect, let alone 1-shotting even at a side aspect.



Please move it up to 9.0!

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I could not dissagree more, the Object 279 does not deserve any more powercreep. German TAM’s can just 1 tap it and most Dartslingers can kill it with ease. Just look at the below video, does that seem fair to the player?

https://youtu.be/nW_9C9lSj18

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Early Soviet MBTs with APFSDS and their variants (T-55A, T-62, T-55M (Fin), e.g.) should not receive BR increase.
They are too slow to compete with western G2 MBTs and wheels thanks to its PWR 16 (almost same as T-34-85), and unable to effectively use defensive tactics like hull down because of limited gun depression (5 degree) and limited reverse speed (8km).

Also QN506 and AUBL/74 HVG should not receive BR increase since their weapons barely kill single tank and the statistics clearly show that.

a 2 year old video