Please move the German Tornado IDS Marineflieger to 10.7 or back to 10.3 from its current 11.0. The airframe has neither the speed, maneuverability, loadout, or countermeasures to face 12.0 jets to which it gets uptiered 2/3 games. Harrier Gr.7 should also be moved to 11.3 or 11.0 for the same reasons.
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Am I the only one who thinks any “Light Tank” from 10.0 onwards should be a rank 7 and be given a scout drone with thermals? The M3A3 Bradley is now the same BR as the M1128.
Overall the changes are good, however - why is Leopard 2AV moving up while not receiving a buff to its reload speed like other vehicles?
Being just 0.3 BR below vehicles like Leopard 2A4 and M1, both of which have better reload (with M1 30% faster reload speed if both are aced) and thermals puts it in an awkward spot.
Please please please revisit BR for F104 TAF, its original BR of 10.7 felt far more competitive while still not being overpowered. Late F104 should be a bit higher as they are upgraded but 11.0 in this matchmaker is ruining a plane I paid for.
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WTH, Leopard I on 8.0 is waaaay too high. It’s unarmoured, relatively not that mobile compared to wheely boys, doesn’t have that good ammo, and is not stabilised.
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Please consider moving the TURMS-T and the 2S38 to 10.3 like the rest of the premium vehicles since currently, they stomp anything when downtiered at 9.0. They arguably have in most cases better amour, sights, guns, and maneuverability than any tanks and IFVs respectively at those BRs. I would also argue that the squadron vehicle BMP-2M should be moved to 10.0 or 10.3 for the same reasons.
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M60 AMBT, America’s T-72A TURMS-T, was untouched until this change as well.
What’s your point?
And Sweden’s 2S38 equivalent with a slightly worse round & search radar is 10.0…
@Dark_Shadow84
PUMA with Spikes would make it 10.7+ seeing how well Freccia is doing so far, possibly 11.0+.
@MuricaxSuffers
Strela has a lower range, no or worse IRCCM, and no search function.
BMP-2M has equivalents from other tech trees at 9.7 & 10.0.
@Gerhard_bar @Midnattsol
Tornado IDS was OP at 10.7. Source: Me, a Tornado IDS player that wrecked everyone without fear of dying.
I can agree with some changes like the marder to 7.7 and the wiesel, but man ru to 7.3 and t54;leo to 8.0?caernarvon to 7.7? and ush 105to 8.0 while the raketenautomat much more op and its only 7.7? damn what the hell is goin on? and theres a lot more to think about because these changes mostly not helping but ruining things, like after the change russian wont have 7.3 tanks only the premium ones. why is that good to anyone? i think u should think about this MORE wisely its just a stupid lvl up.
Id honestly rather have the old screwed up Economy back, than my Chieftain MK3 Fighting T72Bs, Leopard 2Ks, and AMX-40s.
Calm down buddy, they will do more decompression.
BTW @Stona_WT , I hope this is the start of what War Thunder needs after this: BR decompression for the entire range of BRs.
IDK what the top end will be like, but it’s definitely necessary as War Thunder has another 2 - 4 BRs of jets to add while needing rather serious decompression around 9.3 air.
No they won’t. I’ve seen them pull this before.
This moves the compression problem from 6.0-7.3 to 8.0-9.3. It fixes nothing until Gaiijn moves everything above 10.0 as well. Move the freaking max from 11.7 to 12.0 or 13.0.
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Buddy, they JUST did a round of decompression for top tier…
The game balance is now broken, Italy is forced to use warships at absurdly high BR.
- RN Da Verazzano: it should be at BR 3.7 instead they put it at BR 4.3, and the developers refuse to let it go down in BR.
- RN Corazziere: Should be at BR 3.7 instead they put it at BR 4.3 and the developers refuse to let it go down BR.
- Saetta P-494: Should be at BR 4.0, instead they put it at BR 4.7 because you have missiles, but then we have the USS Douglas which has better missiles but remains at BR 4.0.
- Freccia P-493: It should be at BR 4.0, instead they put it at BR 4.7 at this BR is just a joke.
The Italian community is rightly angry at the incompetence of the developers.
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No real decompression, as decompression requires space to be added this just BR changes, nothing has really happened other than some basic hand holding for the 6.0-6.7 ranges. What’s crazy is that all the T-5x platforms are getting buffed, while none of the other struggling platforms receive attention, on top of the fact that the raketenautomat is still staying at the same (relative) BR, while a large portion of the originally 9.7-10.3 tanks that were moved up are excluded, IE 2S38 and TURMS, thus meaning they’ll be in a better spot to fight tons of tanks in a full downtier that are basically just replicating the problem that existed in the 6.0-6.7 range.
Very poorly thought out solution and implementation, on top of some unnecessary buffs to T5x platforms just because.
A notable step backwards, which is a shame as it was starting to seem like gaijin was starting to get things right.
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Could the PUMA have its Ahead belt work as intended? So make it HE-VT if there no other ways of changing it. I know it isn’t HE-VT irl, but basically works like one
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Dude, they’ve been addressing compression this entire year, give them some credit.
@_TigaMafia It’s still decompression, which is good.
Again, they JUST increased the top BR all the way to 11.7. They’re specifically focusing on 7.0-9.7 right now…
The Strela is still much better vs planes with no flares and at 9.0 thats the majority of planes.
Also the Spike is useless and not the reason why the Freccia is doing ok.
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