So, Tiger II (H) to 7.0 ?
You call this very good ??

Sureeeee.
Even with thermals the T-80UD wouldn’t be close to the best 10.7 MBT, so if you would have to move a whole lot of other 10.7s to 11.0 too.
do you realize that it is not the same a difference in kd of 0.04 than a difference of 0.35 that… btw youre the one proposing that the su 122-54 need to go up, i never claimed that the ferdinad should go up.
Btw you if you want to shift the post at least try pick something that has a much higher difference not two that have very similar stats
The UD does not have thermals?
The Russian T-80UD doesn’t. the Pakistani event T-80UD/BE in the Chinese treehas gen2 gunner thermals.
Seems fine to me when it can match broken USSR stuff.


Buddy it actually reeks of it.
Not the Russian one no, the Chinese one has Gen 2 TVD
are there any russian T80UDs with thermals or is this whole thing just based on a technicality?
as far as I have been able to find is that the pakistani export T80UD and some ukrainian modernizations featured thermal sights. Nothing for the old soviet version tho but night image-intensifiers
I hope you are not referring to the is2
Its the tiger 2 p
So its somewhat simular to the is2 1944
But then there is the tiger 2 h at the same br for reasons
Yeah that is pretty much also what I found.
10.5 didn’t have mobility nerfs, and its increase in BR was more decompression than anything. Leave that tank out of any ‘woe is me’ discussion. Only thing it got impacted by was some changes to the 10.5 shell that has lessened its post-pen damage a little, but it still gets the job done.
And in this change they also buff the penetration.
The BMPT combat rating should be raised to 11.7-12.0. This vehicle is still too effective.
Kinda suprised its not on the list
Naval - Map BR Change
Golden Bay (Domination)
2.0-5.0 > 2.0-4.7 (or stay 5.0 and remove cruisers)
As one of the smaller maps it should be Boats/Destroyers only, not just easily dominated by one or two cruisers in the back line.
And stop hiding maps. When was the last time I saw Black Sea Port? There’s little enough variety as it is.
Plus rename Fuego Islands (Boats) as 3.0-4.3 including Bluewater spawns clearly it is not.
T58 not included.
Turm III not included.
List of surprises, isn’t it ?
We do not have proper data on the BMPT after br changes yet
So it is not getting changed
Stuff like this is exactly why the F-15As should’ve NEVER gone down.
Precisely.