PL12 is on par with the Aim120B and worse than the C5 in BVR.
It is way better at closer ranges and especially in off-bore shots.
Sadly they neuter french the most
All fox-3 seekers are the same (with exception to MICA, Fakour 90 and pheonix, this is seen in the files)
BVR combat is mostly irrelevant in this game
Missile performance within 15km matters much more as the enemy has less tube to avoid the missile and the missile has much more energy during flight.
You can almost perfectly rank top tier missiles based on this picture
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You missed why the two French were moved to 8.0. The overperformance of APHE. Lorraine and Somua have that silly French solid AP.
I wouldn’t say its irrelevant. The EFT can get some nasty early kills with the C5 when you are going high and fast. Late game it is kinda useless tho
EF is an exception to this I find thanks to how fast and manouverable the airframe is
Letting it make up for the flaws of amraams
F-15C GE and hornet don’t really count as they just win with big missile count
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Absolutely
Ahh yep forgot about the other one, I honestly still don’t think it justifies 8.0 in my opinion. Never found solid shots that bad tbh.
I don’t think they should be 8.0, either. 7.7 is fine for them. I’m just assuming what Gaijin’s justification was.
Its irrelevant in the sense that only people with room temp iq die to 30km+ shots so it doesnt really matter which missile is fired at them since they will die either way .
Yeah honestly don’t even play it anymore, they also hid it in a drop down tree just so people might bypass it lol
I still want to emphasize this point of mine: the speed and altitude advantages provided by the launch platform are irreplaceable.
Best i can offer is a M-Pzgr. SapheI and SapheI-T with limited penetration. They just didnt make any other AP round for the Mk 108.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/HJdLRYXvq2HI
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Vehicle: Panther A
Gamemode: GRB
Change: 6.0 to 5.7 and nerf to rank 3.
Reason: Is unnecesary put 3 Panthers in the same BR when G and F are performing much better nad are clearly a improvement over the A variant. Is good to due Germany 5.7 is composed by just poor movility heavies and TD give them a boost to his movility and tactics.
Vehicle: Sdkfz 234/2 “Puma”
Gamemode: GRB
Change: No change just move to rank 3.
Reason: Germany is the only nation in game without acces to scouting in rank 3 for some reason. With this small change this can be fixed until more proper light tanks can be added.
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There’s more to it than it’s just performing worse because of the vehicle characteristics. Three at same BR, in same lineup = one is being used as a third spawn, so it has less opportunity for kills and more chance of being spawned into a chaotic mess (even spawn camp situation). You also need to factor in if any 4.7 vehicle should be facing this vehicle when the 4.7 is uptiered.
It doesn’t matter how much better the eurofighter’s FM is, the PL-12 outperforms the amraam in ranges that matter.
The aim-120 is fast asleep the wheel while the pl-12 can manouver and accelerate faster
Vehicle: M 24 Chaffe (US and China)
Gamemode: GRB
Change: Move to rank 3 like the others M 24.
Reason: Basically put in the same rank like the others M 24s.
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